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Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by Carol Al-Ajroush, Nov 25, 2004.

  1. latka

    latka Active Member

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    So let me see if I understand you....Rapes are committed because prostitution is illegal? School age kids abstaining from sex is a bad thing? Americans think sex is bad?
     
  2. gammonbabe

    gammonbabe New Member

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    1. Look at the statistics between sex crimes in america and sex crimes in sex positive countries.

    2. It's the parents job to teach their children values. It is not the governments job. Money is needed for education, but the poorest of the poor get their education benefits cut, while the kids are told that they shouldn't have sex. Well ... if they can't get an education so they can get a decent job, at least let them have some fun.

    3. Americans are not sex positive and for many sex is something dirty. How sad.

    Marianne
     
  3. Barbara

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    Gammonbabe: while I agree there are beneficial aspects to legalized prostitution, drugs, etc (the hookers are clean and taxed, the needles are clean and free, and so on), two things concern me along those lines--one is that having traveled in some of the countries that have chosen this route, stoned mainliners and professional sex workers are somehow jarring to me as the accoutrements of the beautiful historic sites of Europe. This kind of goes back to my thoughts on the general caorsening of society, and the mutable nature of the "victimless crime" depending on who's advocating what.

    The other concern I have is with our own society's tendency to victimhood vs. victimization, and how that would work if all victimless (except to those making the choice to be prostitutes, drug addicts, etc) crimes were legal; If our society sees nothing wrong with suing tobacco companies on behalf of people who chose to smoke (although it is legal and heavily taxed), and is moving toward suing fast food companies (although they are legal and taxed) on behalf of people who choose to eat that way, on the grounds that we all suffer because of these bad choices people make (we all pay the costs of dying smokers and our common environment is polluted by them, we all pay the costs of the obese, and our lives are annoyed by them--not my opinion, but the position of some), then how on earth do we justify legal prostitution, drugs, pornography whatever? Is it somehow better than McDonald's?

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  4. Barbara

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    I had another thought about this: are prostitution, drugs, fast food, and tobacco the "same"? There is my concern about "everything is anything is nothing".

    On the other hand, many of the people who would outlaw tobacco and fast food use "the greater good of society" argument. (It uses up too much of the Earth to produce a pound of meat, tobacco pollutes the air, we will all die because of these selfish lazy people who make us pay for their illness and death because of their wrong lazy choices...) Aside from the Nanny State implications, isn't that a "moral" judgement? Hee hee.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     

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