Broadlands Hospital

When will we know if Rebecca is a Broadlands resident or INOVA employee?
So what can we find out from StopBRMC.com -- nothing. Once again, an "anonymous" blog-like website, whose creators won't take credit for their words and actions publicly on their website. Other legitimate PACs (if that's what CCB really is) always identify their founding members and/or current leaders somewhere on their website. We here may know, and people on your email list, but the general public does not. I think they have a right to know who is running a supposedly-community-based organization.
The site is good for one thing, it identifies the dates and times of the public meetings they plan to attend. Now I know, so I can also attend in support of the hospital if I like.

9/2/08 9:00 AM
Public input/Presentation/Business Meeting
9/8/08 6:30 PM
Public Hearing
9/15/08 6:30 PM
Public Input

Anyone interested in starting a "Go BRMC" website?

 

Oh yeah. We could have pictures of Broadlands children dying because they couldn't make it all the way to Lansdowne in time for life-saving treatment. Maybe even some black-and-white pictures of Moms and Dads crying at a funeral. You know, because anyone opposed to BRMC wants children and neighbors to die because they won't allow us to have critical services "smack dab in the middle of our residential neighborhood."

 

Well, there you go again with the "smack dab in the middle of our residential neighborhood" quote. Are you one of Donna's ghost writers, or are you just clueless.

In fact, check out the anti-BRMC site, they have a great depiction of the proposed site location. Yup, right on their site, it's evident, the hospital is not in the middle of any neighborhood, in fact, it clearly shows three highways on three sides, the the school building on the other. You should take a look, I bet it will surprise you.

 

Is this accurate or sensationalist?

-Quote 1: The proposed location for BRMC is inappropriate for the traffic, noise, and environmental concerns that will arise from such a development.

Please provide the traffic studies (indicating by-right office development vs. hospital comparison), noise-analysis, and environmental studies that have been completed which demonstrates the above accuracy of this statement.

-Quote 2: HCA’s new application will destroy our community.

Per Webster, destroy means “to put out of existence”. Again, Broadlands will cease to exist if this hospital is built?

-Quote 3: HCA is the corporation that will uproot our community and all that we stand for

Again, Fact or sensationalist quote?

I could go and on and on, (but I don’t have $20,000 funded in my pocket by HCA)

 

Mmmmk - I've been staying out of this fray because my idea will never come to pass. However, if anyone has the ear of either camp - please forward the following message:

Stop calling me. Stop it. Last night your "Private Private" number showed up three times until I finally answered on the third try. You want another voice against your cause? Call me again.

kthxbai

 

The Man also finally answered after 6 calls and POLITELY informed the caller that we were not interested in getting calls from their organization and they were bordering on harrassment so please leave us alone. she got the hint- he said it in Brooklyn-ese.

 

Just a thought, it may not be the group you think it is. At this point I wouldn't put it past either side to pretend to be the other to evoke "anger" and possibly sway opinion to their side. Not trying to stir the pot, just something to think about.

 

i will tell you that it was PRO BMRC that we shut down yesterday. not b/c we are against the hospital- we are against being called every hour until we answer. we will shut down ANTI BMRC next when we finally answer one of THEIR calls.

i simply don't know whether or not the hospital is a good or bad thing, so i will sit on the fence, especially since nothing i say will make a diff ANYWAY. there's not VOTE for it or against it by citizens, right? we have no control over the outcome, right? so i'd sooner put my energ in to something i can make a diff on, like spending all day on a msg board for example... lol

 

Redon,

Your voice would make a difference on the hospital or any other issue that comes before the Board of Supervisors. The BOS holds input sessions every month and listens carefully to what constituents have to say. Speaking at one of these sessions is probably more valuable than a vote since so few people do it. You can also send an email to bos@loudoun.gov and all of the BOS members will have a chance to read it. You should take time to learn more about the issue as it is very important to all of us since everyone needs healthcare. Reading this thread could make anyone want to forget about the issue LOL but honestly you are only getting a handful of opinions on here and not alot of facts. Ignore the hyperbole and rants and seek out some facts.

skins fan

 

I've gotten six calls from their robo-dialer in the last hour and a half. I support BRMC, but if they keep calling me, they can forget about getting any active support.

BTW, it is clear to me that this battle has international implications. The ambulance and truck wreck photo on the stop BRMC site is from Australia (Queensland Ambulance Service) and the photo of the traffic jam is from some far-away land with wide yellow license plates. I'm thinking BRMC must have secret plans to helicopter in foreigners for treatment.

 

Email, phone calls... and snail mail? I got a very nice, unsigned letter from the Stop BRMC camp today.

Is something about to hit a proverbial fan in the next week or two? From the calendars I could see, it's not until September that the BoS is reviewing the BRMC application. Well, I guess now is the right time then for both sides to be ramping up any support they can muster.

Wow, wouldn't that just serve to hurt their message? I'm gonna start printing the photos to take to the BoS meeting.....

 

point taken, but WHERE. ARE. THE. FACTS.

there are opinions, what ifs, insinuations, accusations, and out of control spin. i don't even know where to FIND a fact. lead me to them and i PROMISE i will use my loud proud voice to let the BoS know what i think.

i don't feel like i can trust the info from EITHER side anymore- the irrational, bitter and juvenile behavior on both sides has ME wanting to find and fund a whole NEW hospital altogether. continuous calls. sensationalistic ads. ridiculous accusations.

the worst part is how MUCH truth there may be to both sides of the argument, and we have to wade thru a ton of muck to find it. when someone finds an impartial truth telling organization to look to for REAL numbers, REAL information, REAL information about this issue, PLEASE share. but right now- I don't want to hear from anyone who i have heard from so far.

 

redon1-
What specific facts would you like an answer to?

 

Redon - for me it is very simplistic.

First and foremost, WE NEED ANOTHER HOSPITAL. Is Broadlands the perfect location? No. But we cannot wait another 5, 10 or more years to have one built, We need one SOONEST.

Second, propaganda. Each side is obviously going to say what they feel needs to be said to have or prevent BRMC. Are there valid concerns for each side, certainly.
But for me, since I feel we need another hospital NOW, I again look at the two sides. HCA - a huge corporation with some negative history but overall a respected and profitable company (means they are doing something right IMO).
Inova Loudoun - again a respected company (I don't buy the "non-profit" crap for one second) but I ask myself regarding their negative campaign and "statistics" (ahem), do any other hospitals in the immediate area have as many issues that Inova says BRMC will have... HELL NO! We would certainly see lots more press coverage is other area hospitals experienced even 1/2 of what Inova says BRMC will experience.

We were at Inova Fair Oaks earlier this week and the care was fine. There are communities just as close as what Broadlands will be, if built. They appear to be lovely and well kept. Oh, and there is major expansion going on at Fair Oaks. I did a quick Google and could not find (didn't look too hard ) any negative articles about noise, housing depreciation, traffic or the fact that the hospital was doing a MAJOR expansion.

My .02 cents worth.

 

i KNEW someone would ask that! i read the article that said Loudoun has lower than the nat'l average of beds per head, score 1 for HCA. the need for another hospital in Loudoun is clear.

1) why the Broadlands when there is a hospital 5 miles away?

2) does have BMRC mean there will NOT be another hospital built in the near future in Loudoun, where was it- the Rt. 50 corridor that ppl kept saying was a better location?

3) why is Inova SO dead set against BMRC when- if the FACTS show that there aren't enough beds, they CAN'T service this community well with their current facilities- it could only be a good thing for them? If they are not overcrowded, their services get better, isn't there enough insurance money to go around for everyone??

4) is Inova Loudoun turning ppl away, or unable to reasonably meet the medical care demands of this area as it is today?
are there unnaceptable wait times to see a doctor or insufficient staff as of today?

5) will BMRC duplicate specialized health care services offered by Inova- by that I mean above and beyond your typical health and wellness needs- or bring something NEW to the table?

i don't want to hear about the heartless BMRC or greedy Inova- both are businesses- i don't believe EITHER of them put anything above the bottom line. no successful business does, not hospitals, not churches, so all of THAT conjecture and drivel, I can do without.

i don't want opionions or rumors, i want cold hard balack and white facts. pretty please.

 

Sir,

Please stop it with these reasonable arguments. This debate is only open to those who want to demonize the other side.

 

One huge public announced fact, that is indisputable by anyone, is the Children's Hospital announcement. Who would be against having a major influence from Children's Hospital within Loudoun County? I am not sure everyone understands the magnatude of this announcement. A direct link to Children's Hospital from Loudoun!

Second, one may question the exact amount, but HCA will be paying county taxes. Estimates have been around the 3 million dollar mark per year. It's a fact that Inova pays zero in taxes to the County.

Third, HCA is proffering road improvements on Belmont Ridge Road all the way to Briar Woods H.S.