HCA's Finances Sour -- "more bad news to come"

Oh no! What have I done??? I bought a half-million dollar home from a company that has an out-of-date site plan on its website! They must not be able to build a good house! Thanks, but I'd rather have Van Metre concentrating on building my home than on fixing an obscure error on its website.

Note also that the site plan still does not reflect that Clydes is being built -- and there is no question about its status. One would think that if Van Metre were actively using the site plan to attract buyers (and deceive them at the same time, apparently), they would have updated it to reflect the plan for an upscale restaurant in the neighborhood...

 

I agree with you, Ray. The way to solve this whole issue is to make the Broadlands website available to "registered residents only." Right now, though, Homer has a very good point -- far too much information is out of the net about us.

 

You act like the two are mutually exclusive. Why have such low expectations? Can't you expect a little bit more from the companies that you do biz with?

 

I agree with Ray and chris. Not only is anonymity on these boards counterproductive to meaningful discussions, it is, apparently, a fallacy. After all, so-called "anonymous" members of these forums have apparently still been able to receive threatening phone calls and regular mail from pro-hospital people. Right, chris???

 

Good point PatsFan,

Did Chris ever provide details associated with one of her many conspiracy theories, i.e. the threats to anti-hospital folks. Or was that smoked out as bogus? If I recall you two were corresponding outside of this forum about it.

PatsFan:
"I agree with Ray and chris. Not only is anonymity on these boards counterproductive to meaningful discussions, it is, apparently, a fallacy. After all, so-called "anonymous" members of these forums have apparently still been able to receive threatening phone calls and regular mail from pro-hospital people. Right, chris???
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Admin,

Thank you for your quick response. Can we assume part of your investigation could conclude that contact information was not compromised from this website?

 

You make me laugh! You are the QUEEN of twisting, manipulating, AND over-sensationalizing other people's posts to warp and twist them to your needs. You are the person who lumps together and caterogizes anyone who speaks favorably of HCA, HOA, VM, GOP, ABC, 123, ZZZ.. as being in bed together. "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN"

For the record, I know one person who works for Van Metre and he sold us our house, and I know no one from HCA.

 

pats and afgm: After your numerous attacks, I dropped the matter of the hate email and other communications sent by the pro-HCA side out of desire to bring some sliver of civility to this forum. (As I have mentioned before, the emails has been shared with individuals of trust. Is there any reason that I should trust either of you? One of you doesn't even live in the Broadlands and I don't know the other person from a hole in the ground.)

This matter has been dead for over weeks now, and now you are bringing it up again. Why?!? I guess that you just love to attack people for whatever reason suits you at the moment. Say and do what you want -- I will not engage on this topic after this point unless it happens again, but I know the truth about the evil actions of the pro-HCA side because I have seen it with my own two eyes. As I also mentioned, the pro-HCA side also claims to have been targeted for hate emails, etc. In your single-minded zeal, you're not making a fuss about that. I think that shows your true intentions involve only wanting to badger anyone who does not pray to the HCA gods nightly... (I can hear it now..."Our Father who art in the hospital, hallowed be thy fraud, thy hospital come...")

 

I bet you want to drop the matter. Maybe you shouldn't have made it up in the first place, huh???

I'm not questioning you OR the other side about the e-mail.</u> As I have stated NUMEROUS times before, I will concede that e-mails might have been sent. At least I can see how that is physically possible. Admin is looking into this, so the truth will come out eventually.

YOU and MaryJo are the only ones claiming to know about TELEPHONIC and REGULAR MAIL threats, yet every time I mention this you change the subject and try to bring us back to e-mails. Why is this? We all know why -- because you didn't think long enough before making up these incendiary allegations, and you have now been caught in a lie.

Next time, if you are going to make something like this up, I suggest you make sure that your allegation is actually physically possible. To do otherwise would damage your credibility even further.

Admin: sorry to stay off topic, but it is chris' thread, and she asked me a direct question. So I answered...

 

Chris,

Just because you decided to drop it doesn't mean it erases the issue or the implications from the accusation.

Either it happened, and people should be concerned, or it is another example of a bogus claim made about this issue. That is all, it is nothing personal. I am surprised at how emotional you are about burying the subject.

Clarity and truth is nothing to shy away from. In fact, many including me, supported the concern of "threats made". I am not sure how that concern turned into your recent rant.

If you are satisified there was nothing of significants associated with your claim, than just say so. People will respect that.

 

pats and afgm: This 2-on-1 action is nice -- thanks. You've run off practically everyone else with your attacks, but not me. LIVE WITH THESE FACTS:

-The hate mails happened.
-The facts do exist.
-The evidence has been shown to people of trust.
-You're not attacking the other side to provide their proof, only us. That shows your bias and your true goals.

Also, there's no need to apologize for hi-jacking this thread. If you were truly sorry, you would have apologized several posts back when you got off topic. Or if you had been sincere, you could have started a new thread for the new dialogue.

Also, pats, you said the following to me "you have now been caught in a lie." That is incorrect, and you know it. However, that is a direct and personal attack -- and is not allowed under the guidelines of this forum.

 

Don't sweat it -- I wasn't apologizing to you.

It was not meant as a personal attack -- it was only an observation. I'm sorry if your guilty conscience sees it that way.

 

I repeat:

LIVE WITH THESE FACTS:

-The hate mails happened.
-The facts do exist.
-The evidence has been shown to people of trust.
-You're not attacking the other side to provide their proof, only us. That shows your bias and your true goals.

 

Is it too much to ask that people act like adults? From my point of view, Chris has said her views and some of you just keep on picking on her.

 

Two things: (1) calling out someone for a purported lie is not a personal attack. (2) However, if that is a personal attack, you are guilty of attacking virtually all of the pro-hospital people on this board, particularly Cliff. Your whole mantra has been that HCA (and, thus, its supporters) are built on lies and fraud. Again, the world of Chris is a world of double standards. She gets a free pass to dish out hate-filled garbage about HCA and its supporters, but no one better call her on it. Oh no, THAT would be a personal attack on Chris, which isn't allowed. This is great entertainment. Better than TV.

 

Life is a two-way street. If you notice, she started this thread. We didn't.

 

I'm not going to get involved in name-calling. My point is that it looks like Chris started this thread to talk about HCA's financials and then several people got on here to attack her. Is it too much to ask those people to act like adults?

 

Brian,

Thanks for your input. I will concede that it may appear that I am attacking chris, but, to use the schoolyard phrase, "she started it!" In fact, if you re-review this thread you will see that you raised the issue of the "coming soon" sign, and my original response to that issue was directly related to it and did not contain any "personal attacks." Only after she attacked my "defense" of Van Metre did things get more heated.

You are new to these forums, so you may not have the benefit of having seen what she does to those that offer opinions in opposition to hers. I think that many of the forum members would agree that she, with her 370+ posts, is one of the most brutal attackers on these forums. You happen to be "on her side" on the hospital issue, but just dare to oppose her and you will see what I mean.

Oh, and I applaud your use of your real name. I will gladly do so if/when everyone is required to.

Happy posting!