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HOAs put homes with late feed up auction in TX

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by redon1, May 6, 2009.

  1. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    Next time you wanna kvetch about OUR HOA- be glad you don't live in Texas! :huh:

    HOAs put homes with late dues up on auction block [​IMG]


    HOA FORECLOSURES

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    May 6th, 2009
    WYLIE - The foreclosure listing service says foreclosures are up 25 percent in North Texas, and nearly 1,000 homes this year have been foreclosed on by homeowners associations.


    Often, homeowners don't even realize their house is on the auction block.
    News 8 tracked down some surprised owners of a Wylie home that was up on the auction block.
    "I just couldn't believe it," said Jaqueline Rinaldi, who said she had no idea her home was up for auction.
    Rinaldi is now in danger of losing her home due to more than $1,000 in delinquent HOA dues.
    "Somebody can come and take your home away from you because you owe $1,000 worth of homeowners dues," said Chuck Sharp. "That's just ridiculous."
    So far this year, nearly 1,000 homes in North Texas have been foreclosed on by HOAs, which is up three percent from last year. The Texas Legislature is now considering stripping HOAs of their foreclosure power.
    However, HOAs defend it as a needed tool to collect unpaid fees.
    "Those members of the association who do pay their assessments and do care for their community are going to end up paying more, and I think everybody should pay their fair share," said Judd Austin, a HOA representative.
    Actual sales from HOA foreclosures are rare since homeowners get multiple chances to clear the debt and reclaim the home.
    "Anybody who bids on a HOA lien is just wasting their time and money," said Jim Johnson, a home buyer.
     
  2. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I like the comment..

    "Somebody can come and take your home away from you because you owe $1,000 worth of homeowners dues," said Chuck Sharp. "That's just ridiculous."


    How about... 'why did you run up $1,000 in delienquent dues.. and not pay any of it' said flynnibus. "That's just ridiculous"
     
  3. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    i LOVE ppl who don't follow the rules and then whine when they are punished for it... :screwy:
     
  4. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    Yeah - but FORECLOSURE? Waterboarding, maybe. Garnishing wages, perhaps. A scarlett letter for certain. But snatch the house away?
     
  5. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    That is an example of a HOA losing touch with the community. :(
     
  6. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    it's extreme, i agree.
     
  7. Brassy

    Brassy Hiyah

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    Or how about all the finished spec homes that were bulldozed by the bank who now owned them as it would be to expensive to finish building out the development?
     
  8. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    I wonder if there is a reason the HOA did not just take the resident to small claims court?
     
  9. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    What difference would that really make? The offenders failed to pay after "homeowners get multiple chances to clear the debt". So they haven't paid and now you take them to 'small claims court', and let's say the HOA wins the judgment. The offender now owes the HOA money, just like they did before. But now, if they don't pay, they can potentially go to jail. Tell me, what do you think the HOA's chances of getting their money are after the individual is sent to jail? What do you think will happen to the home if the owner goes to jail?

    In the end, the offender owes the HOA money and is breaking a 'law'. While their solution is extreme, I seriusly doubt they foreclose on the homes when an owner is 3-4 months late on their payments. Do the math, if you've racked up over $1000 in delinquent HOA dues/fines, there's something else going on, and it's been going on for MANY MONTHS.
     
  10. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    The difference is that it would be using the existing legal system for collecting a debt. A civil court is able to garnish wages and even, in some cases, affect tax refunds.

    The intent is to allow the existing legal system to handle this vice the HOA taking action on their own. Putting a lien or auctioning someone's house should be the absolute last resort.

    Unless there is a reason the Texas HOA does not want a judge to review the contracts/procedures of course.
     
  11. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    I don't know if it would go as far as foreclosure but I know of a home in Lansdowne that has a lien on it from the HOA because of an issue with the HOA rules. All dues are paid.
     
  12. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Most of the folks who aren't paying their HOA dues for MONTHS aren't employed. Garnishing wages in these cases is almost a waste of time.

    You're assuming that they're not doing this as a last resort. As I mentioned above, if you're over $1000 delinquent in HOA dues, the HOA has been hounding you for MONTHS trying to get you to pay. I'm speaking from experience here, if you think it makes a big difference when the legal system tries to get the money that is owed to an HOA, you're in for a rude awakening...

    And ultimately, it's the folks that DO pay their dues on time, each and every month that end up paying for the mess, through increasing dues, reduction in services, etc.
     
  13. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    I'm thinking that homeowners don't think HOA dues are as important as HOA employees do. I'm not saying it's right, just that I don't think some people take them seriously.
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    So enforcing a legal agreement is 'taking action on their own'?? You act like this is some vigilante swoop in.
     
  15. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    Easy guys, try some decaf. I was just asking a question. No need for the attitudes.
     
  16. sharse

    sharse TeamDonzi rocks!!

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    Wait. If my mortgage is paid up and current, the HOA doesn't have standing to foreclose.
     
  17. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Yes, compare the cost to obtain a lien and foreclose (the cost to the community, strip the homeowner of their dignity, render them homeless), compared to the cost of a judgement to garnish wages.
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    here - they don't have standing period. They can basically only interject at settlement.

    In Texas the laws are different.
     
  19. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Not quite correct. Paying your HOA fees is attached to your deed and mortgage. If you don't pay your HOA fees, you can be foreclosed upon, regardless of whether your mortgage is paid on time.
     
  20. moconnell

    moconnell New Member

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    Any organization that auctions someone's home for $1,000 in late fees is abusing their power. Period.
    It doesn't take a genius to see the punishment does not fit the crime on this one.
     

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