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More Deception from Loudoun Hospital

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by afgm, Jun 15, 2005.

  1. ddrd

    ddrd New Member

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    From the BRMC website... Rt. 50 just won't work!

    "Why don't you move to Route 50?
    A location along Route 50, at this point in time, is not feasible, practical or doable. A change in location must be approved by the State Health Commissioner, who is unlikely to approve such a change due to the proximity of Inova Fair Oaks Hospital, which, unlike Loudoun Hospital Center, has not been operating at well-above capacity for years. Moreover, there is insufficient population along the Route 50 corridor to support a hospital now or in the near future, a fact the County's paid healthcare consultant and Loudoun Hospital Center both acknowledge. The substantial traffic congestion on Route 50 compounds the difficulties of locating facilities on Route 50. Indeed, all of these concerns may explain the fact only 3 physicians currently have offices along Route 50. Waiting years - if not decades - until the population, infrastructure and market can support a hospital along Route 50, while Loudoun Hospital continues to board patients in hallways, is irresponsible. BRMC can be constructed and begin operating in three years. The time is now."
     
  2. Barbara

    Barbara New Member

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    Ddrd, sometimes I wonder what name you used to post under. Have you gone to other websites (like state, county, and threads on this one) to see where the site in Broadlands went through the whole megillah about being too close to existing facilities? And read HCA's arguments on why it was okay for them to go inside those perimeters with Broadlands? Of course the BRMC site is going to state the current BRMC position. This mulberry bush has been rounded many times before.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  3. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Barbara,

    Having a bad day. What's up with the personal attack! You sound as angry as the post from your South Riding neighbor.:)

     
  4. Barbara

    Barbara New Member

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    Not angry AFGM. Just noting to a new member (as others often seem to do) that an issue has precedent. I found it interesting that you took the trouble to insert a SR comment (don't know the individual, but wish I did) from L2day, but less so when I went to the site and read the others. It appears, as usual, that the "Golly, look what I've found!" link was really to point out something else, in this case perhaps the post from the Ashburn Farm HOA president announcing official support for BRMC. It appears from the other post that the immediate need argument is getting another workout. Well, best of luck to all tomorrow.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  5. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Well Barbara,

    Since you seem to have found it, and volunteered the information, there is "some" truth in your statement.

    Ashburn Farm HOA did unanimously pass a resolution in support of the hospital and the proffered road improvements. I am sure you'll find a way to spin a unanimous vote into something subversive to the hospital effort. I'll await to be amused.

    You see we will be neighboring the hospital and have greater interest in these things than someone that is attacking the ENTIRE project out of territorial jealousy. Your total disregard to see anything of value in this project leads me to believe you have motives beyond a parochial interest.
     
  6. Barbara

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    AFGM, I am still amused. Of course I "found it"; wasn't that the point of the "jeepers!" link by you? Well, SR BoD passed a res of support for the CPAM unanimously. I'm sure lots of communities (like all the western townships have done) are going to put their positions on record, as they should, because this affects the entire county. I shall take the opportunity to remind you that "territorial jealousy" is not the best argument for you to use when you will be equidistant between the two proposed facilities--demanding to be surrounded by hospitals reads as pretty territorial. I'm not angry, but you are sounding pretty peevish. Relax, because it is quite possible that nothing definitive will be settled tonight. Let's see how it goes before we fall back on the usual arguments.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  7. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    The CPAM is a paper tiger when considering the approval of BRMC. The CPAM is a concept plan(political as it is). It is noted by staff, and was also noted by Supervisors (during the hearing you attended) the CPAM does NOT preclude the construction of BRMC. To hang your hopes on the CPAM is a weak stance.

    I am not demanding to be surrounded by hospitals. I am supporting free commerce, and a companies wish to provide consumer choice. You continue to ignore the fact NO hospital, including INOVA or HCA sees a population base to support a hospital in south dulles. Free commerce is something to embrace, not kill. A true Republican principle, one worth supporting.

    It continues to boggle my mind to try and figure out how you think killing BRMC is going to produce a hospital in SR.

    Without acknowledging this fact, you shine a huge light of truth on "territorial jealousy". But I wouldn't expect you to admit this, it is a habit, a pattern that is hard to break.

     
  8. ddrd

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    Sorry to disappoint you, Barbara, but I haven't posted under any other name.

     
  9. Barbara

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    Ddrd, you don't disappoint me. I was pointing out that if, as a new member, you are going to raise the issue of proximity to existing facilities with a quote from BRMC, you should read a bit more from other sources and see that that was NOT an issue for HCA when they were seeking approval within those very same proximity boundaries to place BRMC. The issue has been argued many times before, hence the feeling of deja vu.

    AFGM, by all means re-raise the spectre of my support for the CPAM as seeking to "destroy" BRMC. You're the one putting words in mouths and ranting (as usual). If good planning for the entire county is a bad thing, you may certainly hold that position. And saying "No, but you are" when you will sit between two facilities as proof of my territorialism is laughable. And that may just explain why you seem so sore about it.

    Will they televise tonight? A lot of people here can't go, including me. I had already planned NOT to attend since the AFGM firestorm over the CPAM approval hearing--I spoke in support of the CPAM as an individual, and he was here pronto calling me a liar for "speaking against BRMC". I guess when you live in the spin cycle, supporting something that IS on the agenda is directly denouncing something that is NOT on the agenda, whether HCA brings in busloads of employees from other counties or no. Best of luck to all tonight, and I can't wait to read the dueling accounts. Hope to see some objective ones in the process. ;)

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     

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