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Speeding on Vestals Gap!

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by volvo_nut, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the jeep in question is an older soft-top Wrangler or Cherokee. Was going so fast couln't tell!

    Now, normally speeding does not bother me that much as long as it is within reason (5-7 miles over) but this individual in the jeep is going WAY over the limit in a residential community and has been seen by more than just me at this point. As a new parent I feel obligated to do something, especially when I had my son in the car with me as this person was driving like a maniac!

    I am not an idiot and would never chase a car down as someone on this forum ASSUMED I had done. I only wish to convey the the parents that their daughter (assumed :) ) is not only putting herself (and passengers) at risk but the other drivers on the road.
     
  2. hberg

    hberg give me some of your tots

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    I also live on Inglewood and the jeep in particular is of concern to me as well.


     
  3. Homer Simpson

    Homer Simpson New Member

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    I've chased down cars in this neighborhood. I even chased away three drag racers who I knew were'nt from around here. The cops don't do anything. When they learn the community wont take it, they will leave.

    I'm not an idiot, either. You have to be sure who you're chasing is not a threat and make sure you have a quick out. I doubt that the rag top jeep is a gang banger.

    But as I get older and less inclined to open hostility I think I'm just going to follow and get make and models and report to our overworked police. If only they'd deputize some of us. I'd sit out on Claiborne for hours with a radar gun.
     
  4. einstein

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    Great idea....selective law enforcement to speed within what you have deemed reasonable, 5-7 MPH over the LEGAL speed limit. Are you a Judge? If so, is stealing "just a little" not bother you that much as long as it is within reason?

    btw, please post your vehicle type so I can be identify you when I see your vehicle in the event you are going faster than I consider within reason. That would be the POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

    Don't ya love hypocritical vigilantes? :)
     
  5. Homer Simpson

    Homer Simpson New Member

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    Hey, Einstein! Would you like to live in a place where they ticket you for 1 mile over? We'd all have to have governors on the car b/c you wouldn't be able to keep it staedy consistently. Until computers control cars that's the way it is. And I think the point is that the severity of the offense scales to the speed. 5 MPH is not much of a difference but 15-20 especially in a 35 is huge. That's why you have three levels of speeding tickets.
     
  6. einstein

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    Hey Homer, point taken, however, if you travel at OR BELOW the speed limit, none of this is an issue and makes a safer neighborhood. To the best of my knowledge it is not against the law to travel LESS than the posted speed limit in residential areas. Only road system where this may be a violation is a very few interstates. May I have the identity of your vehicles too!!!
     
  7. Homer Simpson

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    I make it a point not to speed in residential areas. I freely admit I speed on 28. If you don't you'll get run over. It frosts me too when I see someone going through that school zone 10-15 over.
     
  8. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Einstein - selective law enforment is a way of life. Police forces do it every day in every juristiction. How many people do you know who have received a ticket for speeding 1-5 miles over the limit? I truly doubt you know anyone (unless they live in Herndon! :).
     
  9. einstein

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    T8erman, agreed, but we Broadlands residents cannot control at what speed police issue tickets. However, if Homer Simpson (and everyone else upset at speeders) truly wanted to contribute to a solution.... drive slower, enjoy the drive and set an positive example, (travel below the posted speed limit) don't attempt to rationalize and justify illegal behavior because it's only 5-7 MPH. Those 5-7 mph over posted limits could result in another tragic loss of life. Thanks for the post. Happpy travels.
     
  10. brim

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    If you travel below the speed limit, you're not setting a positive example...you're only enraging other drivers trying to get around you who will, in turn, speed up out of frustration making for a more dangerous situation.

    My main gripe is this, if you're *SO* concerned about your child's safety, keep them out of the street in the first place.
     
  11. GCyr

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    Exactly -- major through streets are for cars, not kids! [^]
     
  12. brim

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    ANY street is for cars, not kids. :) Unless it's been blocked off or a culdsac, of course.
     
  13. veronicasmommi

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    We had our 60 day warranty service today and the Van Metre Rep handed us a flier about the speeding in the area and they are concerned too. It has been at their recommendation that when we see speeders, we get their tag numbers and call the police department. Maybe then people will think twice after the police show up at their door.
     
  14. brim

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    don't think the police would do anything more than log the complaint. Perhaps if there are multiple complaints on an individual tag they could investigate further, but law enforcement-by-proxy isn't going to happen. The police simply aren't going to 'show up at everyone's door' who they get a complaint about for a minor offense such as speeding. Informants/tips work for drug dealers and gang members or other felonys, but not a minor traffic violation.

    On the other hand, perhaps we can start calling Child and Family Services every time I see a kid in the street. Maybe then parents will keep their kids safely off the street when a county worker comes and takes their kid(s) from them. :)

    I'm not saying speeding is OK, but it goes both ways here...
     
  15. cleansweep

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    Brim you are 100% correct.Or they can move out to the real country and purchase all the land they want.
     
  16. pdonnadurk

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    It is never OK to use a street as a playground, ball field, bike path or skate park. Doing so sends a mixed message to kids that sometimes playing in them is O.K. That said I have an almost two year old. I do not allow him to play in or near the street but many a parent will tell you short of tying a kid up they will move. Mine likes to chase balls. If a ball rolls in the street can I tell you without absolute certainty that my child wouldn’t go after it? No, not yet. Am I supposed to leash him to a tree? Developmentally a child of two understands and more than not will listen and obey “no” but every child has their moments.

    I remember many moons ago in drivers education we had simulators. There was a simulation with a child chasing a ball and the driver was tasked with avoiding hitting them. Obviously the lesson was slow down. Speeding on residential streets is not OK ever because people are people and behavior is often unpredictable.

    Finally, I have the number for CPS if you like. I suspect after years of working with them they would be slower than the police to come to investigate a parent who "allows" their child to play in the street. I know their time is consumed with other issues.
     
  17. brim

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    pdonna...do we actually agree on something for a change or is your reply sarcasm? :)

    My wife is a social worker so I'm quite familiar with all the necessary steps to contact the appropriate authorities. They are quite consumed with more pressing matters, but so are the cops.
     
  18. einstein

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    Or we could post their license plate # and pictures of them in the post office like we do other criminals! Maybe even have a television show to catch them. Let's face the facts...calling the police with license plate # after the fact will not (and legally cannot) do anything, as proof is required to convict. The police departments issue speeding citations to generate revenue, not make the roads safe. :( It is and will be left to responsible individuals to do the right thing and hope it catches on to keep all children safe!!!

    P.S. Speed bumps anyone?
     
  19. Homer Simpson

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    No speed bumps! The SUVs wont even slow down for them.
     
  20. MD_boy

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    AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
    NO SPEED HUMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I had to live with them for years in my old community. They do little to slow down drivers. They simply race to the next hump. Some just blow right over them without a care. They make snow removal difficult. Most importantly they are a hindrance for emergency vehicles.
     

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