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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    Wow, that's almost the $2b that HCA had to pay ;) I'm all for them going against any fraud, regardless of the company.
     
  2. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    :pofl::pofl::pofl:

    You are seriously off your kilter if you think because INOVA is 'non-profit' that this makes their decisions steered as if they were a 'charity' or they are any less interested in profitability then a 'for profit' organization.
     
  3. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    HCA is also operating under a Corporate Integrity Agreement, which is effective until 2009. Looks like Inova's agreement has just expired (or getting ready to expire), theirs was for a period of 3 years. The list of CIAs is pretty long, looks like our healthcare system is pretty messed up!
     
  4. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    So let's not allow any company in Loudoun that has had ANY fraudulant litigation or deals with Wall St. ;)
     
  5. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    I didn't say that, but it is a fact and it happened and it should be taken into consideration, but I'm not advocating it be the only reason used to decide... I was mainly replying to Cliff's $11,000,000 vs $1,900,000,000 ammunition =)

    Hey, 3500 posts! What is that in days? :) :fightsw:
     
  6. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    So small, local fraud is good, but big fraud from elsewhere in the county is bad?
    None of HCA's fraud was in Virginia. All of Inova's was. HCA is also a much, much larger corporation.
    My point is that someone gave HCA's fraud as a reason to oppose them.
    Since Inova's fraud was in Virginia and HCA's was not, why not the outcry to boot out Inova?
    It's a rhetorical question......in my opinion, getting caught with a billing issue does not mean you are an evil company that should not be allowed to do business. If they get caught, they pay their fine, hopefully make changes, and move on.
    Goodness, I know what a nightmare medical billing is just for my family. I can imagine what it is like for doctors and hospitals!
     
  7. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    no, all fraud is bad, and so what if a national company committed fraud in some other state, they still did it. Fraud is unacceptable, and is a reason to oppose a certain company. But HCA's fine was equivalent to ~$11m/hospital (I just guessed 175 hospitals)... it wasn't just one billing issue, it was systemic.

    Yeah, I hate medical billing (and the insurance systems) too, it's totally FUBAR and needs to be redone from the ground up...
     
  8. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    In what limited list of names I saw on lists provided by INOVA and Friends, and cross-checked with state licensure public records, at least 50% of the names on the list I reviewed were not even Virginia residents.

    Yes, they should most definitely recuse themselves, if they're not even STATE residents. I would say, ONLY the Loudoun residents in INOVA's employ have any valid stance in the matter, and in that case their employment by INOVA doesn't matter. This is a Loudoun County issue, not a West Virginia or Maryland issue.

    Edit: Also, I question a bit the stances of any INOVA employee, when INOVA is threatening them with job loss if BRMC is built. I heard them, at a public hearing, say that if BRMC is opened they will have to close facilities and fire employees. Sounds like a good way to get employees to sign on the fight against BRMC....
     
  9. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    well if the hospital is built there will be plenty of employment for those folks at BRMC. you only resort to scare tactics and fear-mongering when you have no other card to play. with the population booming & more houses going up around here there will be plenty of sickness, disease, well care and chronic issues to keep both hospitals in business.

    shame on Inova.
     
  10. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    OK, I am calling BS on cobymom. This debate has been going on for seven years, most of it documented during that time on this blog. Many have participated, many have come and gone. Some for ever, some to return.

    cobymom's entire short history of less than 20 posts, have ALL been about or references the hospital. I call troll! A plant if you will. Possibly prodded on by INOVA to try and at least make sure there is some sort of support against BRMC from within Broadlands. They have bought support before, why not pay a blogger?

    I am just saying....we've seen it before.
     
  11. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    That's pretty funny, and I'm sure my neighbors will get a kick out of it! You sound a little paranoid. I'm actually not much of a poster on any forum, more of a lurker, I guess the term is. I've only recently chimed in because I didn't think there was much participation by those who don't support the hospital. I've never supported the hospital, I've lived here for 12 years, and I have a right to express my opinion without being called a troll.
     
  12. momalley

    momalley New Member

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    Actually, no, you don't.
     
  13. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    Why not?
     
  14. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Cobymom is not a troll.
     
  15. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    Thanks Cliff....
     
  16. manypims

    manypims New Member

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    Can I interrupt the message board hijinx for a moment to ask this question: where is the actual site of the proposed hospital? I didn't feel like scrolling through 288 pages to find the answer. And cobymom, thanks. You've actually convinced me that the new hospital is a good thing.
     
  17. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    I'm glad to know that you've listened to all the different opinions, done your own research, and decided on your own opinion. That's what the democratic process is all about....
     
  18. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Observation withdrawn.
     
  19. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    Thank you.
     
  20. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    It is proposed to be located in the triangle of property between Broadlands Blvd, Belmont ridge and the Greenway. Basically, if you drive down Broadlands Blvd from Claiborne towards Clyde's, it is all the undeveloped property that is on your right as you continue up the hill towards Glebe View / Belmont Ridge.

    Staci
     

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