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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    AFGM:

    The only thing I could find on Region 8 (as mentioned by MLB) from the Dept Conservation & Rec Site:

    Region 8 includes the counties of Arlington, Fairfax,Loudoun and Prince William; the cities of Alexandria,Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas and Manassas Park;and the incorporated towns of Herndon, Leesburg,Vienna and Dumfries.


    I found it to be a rather interesting read (albeit 400 pages):

    http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/recreational_planning/documents/voppd08.pdf

    Its note worthy that CCB's own Rebecca Zellner was spotted @ the Govt center & brough the following folks unannounced to BRMC's office yesterday afternoon (I guess they didn't bother to look around the office before they demanded ALL marketing materials):

    Kathy McGregor, National Nurses Organizing Committee
    Skylar Ellis, National Nurses Organizing Committee

    Granted I am not a PR guru, but one would think there would be some sense of professional curiosity to schedule a 'meet and greet' with BRMC representatives. Since this is a community issue - I am just wondering why CCB has folks in from CA & TN...
     
  2. Brassy

    Brassy Hiyah

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    Oh back to something earlier. the lady who posted from Egypt, I think used to actually live here in Broadlands. I recall she had for awhile kept up a sort of blog about what was going on in her life as she adjusted to living there.
     
  3. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    I think you're talking about Carol Al-Ajroush, and her blog was/is located at:

    http://blog.myspace.com/american_bedu

    UPDATE: Carol has moved her blog to a new site: http://americanbedu.com/

    Not sure what this has to do with the hospital though?
     
  4. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    My my my so the Concerned Citizens of Broadlands are mobilizing. Good for them.

    No wait, why are two cats from California and a Texan doing all the leg work? That's strange.

    If this nursing organization is so hyped on HCA, why aren't there a bunch of HCA Reston nurses trolling the halls of Loudoun to complain? Seems like if there was a real issue, we'd find someone between here and California that could illuminate us. Sounds bogus to me.
     
  5. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    That's simple. The NNOC is sending folks out here because they are currently at the bargaining table with HCA. My take, this is just part of their 'activities' in order to gain more leverage during their talks with HCA. That's just my take on things from a quick look through their site.

    Take a look at their website:

    http://www.calnurse.org/hca/

    Here's a quote from the site: "In 2008 1,300 HCA nurses in San Jose, CA who have contracts with CNA/NNOC will begin negotiating renewal of their contract. They are willing to lend their voice at the bargaining table—to support efforts of HCA RNs in other parts of the country—to protect themselves and their patients."

    Now, pure speculation here, but do you think it's a coincidence that they're here trying to make HCA look bad? It's just their union using this as leverage if you ask me...
     
  6. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    I will have the Broadlands version on Monday. If you like, I will scan it to a PDF and post to the forums -- it's public record, the health planning office does not mind.
    - A
     
  7. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Good insight. Does it actually say all of the 1300 are members of the Union. The wording seems a little wishy washy. Doesn't seem like a very strong organization.

    Also, who's paying for these cats to be in Virginia? Rhonda Pace?
     
  8. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    MLB, You are incorrect. The COPN is for a specific location and is not movable to a new location. The planning commissioners act on applications. They can't just move projects wherever they want.

    It is true that the applications are similar but BRMC made a number of significant changes to the project before submitting it initially based on feedback from residents. Changes include moving the building site further away from the homes, adding an ambulance entrance on Belmont Ridge, proffering to pay for widening Belmont Ridge from Truro Parish down to Brambleton and dedicating 3.8 acres of the property closest to residents for community use.

     
  9. Mr Rogers

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    Wow! I go away for a week and the thread dies. Who is the life of the party when I'm not here! NRLOL,JS (Not Really LOL, Just Smirking)
     
  10. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    This just in the County staff has approved the BRMC application. Now on to the planning commission. Of special interest is the following statement from their report:

    Based on review of the Countywide Health Care Facilities Policies, the proposed Broadlands Regional Medical Center complies with the service and location criteria given the regional nature of medical centers as specified in the County’s adopted land use policies for health care facilities. Its location is central to the regional population and provides an additional choice of medical care services. While County policy states that consideration should be given for locating a full-service hospital near the Route 50 corridor, the County has now approved such a hospital facility on Route 50. However, this project requires a Certificate of Public Need from the State in order to establish inpatient beds as a hospital facility. In the event that the approved Inova project does not receive a COPN, the Broadlands facility has been planned to accommodate the community’s needs, including the Route 50 area. Development of the facility at Broadlands does not preclude the County’s consideration of other proposals for medical facilities in the Route 50 corridor, Leesburg or other underserved areas.
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    So what are the next milestones needed before they can break ground on the BRMC?
     
  12. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    As I understand it, the next major and much anticipated, milestone will be the planning commission process. I believe public hearings on that will begin on September 25th.
     
  13. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    According to "Stop BRMC!" the next meetings are:
    9/8/08 6:30 PM: Public Hearing
    9/15/08 6:30 PM: Public Input
    9/16/08 6:30 PM: Business Meeting
    9/25/08 6:30 PM: Planning commission hearing

    Not sure if BRMC is on the agenda for these tho (well, for the 25th they are... CCB is "preparing" for it...).

    As an aside, did anyone notice that StopBRMC has changed their website images? They must have heard about the European license plates and Queensland, Australia ambulances... both of those images have been replaced with more generic "stock" images.

    Saw the two full-page ads in the middle of the association newsletter. Good job to Broadlands Residents for BRMC, in my opinion the better ad of the two. Hopefully the two ads running face-to-face will lead people to investigate some, and make a decision, whichever side they fall on. Hopefully they'll be at the planning commission hearing, too, to support their "side".
     
  14. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Still hilarious that they are showing a traffic jam on the highway...and that's relative to BRMC how? Shows what happens when you are short on substance and long on fear.
     
  15. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The new "face" of CCoB:
    A college student from Texas, a union organizer from Tennessee, and a union organizer from California. This in addition to their previous "lists" of supporters and funding from Inova leads to an organization just a wee bit short of credibility.

    To the REAL concerned citizens of Broadlands that oppose BRMC, please don't let this sham of a group be your sole voice of dissent.
     
  16. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The Planning Commission Public Input session will be 9/25 at Eagle Ridge Middle School. I believe it starts at 6pm. It will probably last until 10pm or later.
     
  17. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Cliff, you bring a very valid point. For credibility sake, those against the hospital need to find another voice. If they are truly concerned and want to have their concerns heard without shrouds of snikkers, they should form a totally separate and meaningful group. If I was against the hospital the last thing I'd want is to be associated with is a charade that CCoB has become. If you don't believe me, ask any Supervisor, they know all about the CCoB. Those who speak as part of the CCoB will carry that reputation.

    Don't get laughed out of the debate.

     
  18. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    I'm going to show up at these meetings. I can't let the anti hospital crowd do all the blathering!

    The Bassman Cometh!

    -By the way...it's BACEMAN...as in Double Bass, Bass Guitar, etc... not BASS man as in the stupid little rodent fish.
     
  19. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Oh I always thought you was a fisherman who beat us bass and other fish. Thanks for clarifying.

    Just in the interest of serving the public good and a fair debate, perhaps I will switch sides and form an organization that can credibly counter the pro-noise, pro-pollution, pro-ambulances-racing-through-Broadlands pro-BRMC crowd. Seriously, I think I may be able to provide a more effective case than using pictures of traffic jams on highways to counter this profits-before-people venture which would upset the peaceful setting we have worked so hard to establish in Broadlands.
     
  20. Mr Rogers

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    Funny??? Not your best work Silence!

    Just a point for the side of "I hope you and your family suffer without adequate hospital beds".

    I thought that the widening of Belmont Ridge Road depended on the installation of the hospital, and without it, this winding death course would remain narrow and perilous?

    Then what is happening right now? There is no final approval for the hospital, but the road construction is going on "as we speak". I find that interesting. Also, just to let you know after the "improvements, Belmont Ridge will be significantly wider than route 15. Build it, and they will come!!!
     

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