Broadlands Hospital

Mr. Linux - try this link
http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2008/06/23/daily31.html

Altought is does not state HCA/Reston's rank

 

Re: Inova top ranked in the US

Oh please!!! Broadlands is not and should not be the barometer for what is done for the rest of the county. We have enough perception issues already with out YOU labeling "us" as strategic.

BUUUUTTT - You even as you admit that Broadlands is a "strategic location", no wonder HCA wants to build here. DUH!

 

And another thing we should put to rest once and for all.

With the exception of several critical posts out of thousands, NO ONE has labeled Inova as "evil". YOU are the one who constantly uses the term "evil".

As most people here who are FOR BRMC have said, they want BRMC built for the competition and for another hospital choice (in Loudoun).

 

Well stated T8. I have been very critical of Inova's fight to keep additional health care out of the county.
I have also publicly praised some of their services and the fact that Inova's takeover of Loudoun hospital was the best thing to happen to it.

 

i have no intention of catching up on 219 pages of posts....i've seen here and there that people are miffed or are in favor of this hospital---but as far as Reston goes---we were very pleased w/ our maternity stay there. i'm not sure i have an opinion either way. Inova loudon is close enough if they don't build this hospital...if they do build it...then i have one even closer.

 

I work for CNMC, so I'm probably biased, but I think they have the best clinical informatics support team! *cough cough*

I guess I have to back out of this debate now, since I'm employed by a partner for this project. Aw well, it was fun.

 

Here is my reply to Donna's email of 12:44 PM today:

Donna-

I DO NOT support your efforts to undermine the building of a new hospital in Broadlands. So please remove my name from your email list.

Also, I believe that to count those people who have not read your email instead of trashing it (or on the junk filter) and then taken the action to ask to be removed from your list as supporters is wrong. Instead, you should ask that those who wish to continue to be on your list to respond to you in the affirmative for continued inclusion and therefore support for your stance. I don't know how you got my email address, but I have never supported your means, message, or stance on this issue.

-Jim

Donna Fortier wrote:
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> In an effort to get a final update on my email distribution list, I would like to get some feedback from you. I will be sending out an email update very soon, but would like to know where you stand on the BRMC issue. I will be using this distribution list as another form of representation of the residents who support our efforts (only your names will be included not your email address). If you don’t want to have your name included, or if you do not support our efforts to keep HCA from building in Broadlands, please ask to be removed from this e-mail list. If I don’t hear back from you, your name will be included as a resident that supports our efforts… as this is yet another opt out opportunity and the final one.
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> As you may or may not be aware, a select few HCA supporters are attempting to discredit me (yet again) by saying (among other things) that I have a conflict of interest as I work at Inova Loudoun Hospital. While I did not work for them during the first 2 or so years of this fight, now that I have been employed by them for almost 5 years, they are saying I should not be involved in this battle. I disagree, as I am a homeowner first and foremost. I do however, want us to be successful and do not want there to be any issue pertaining to this…that’s why we brought on Rhonda Paice (the attorney), so that she could represent us. We also brought on Rebecca Zoellner, as our campaign manager, many of you may have met her as she was introducing herself to our community. They both are a vital part of our newly incorporated Concerned Citizens of Broadlands group.
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> As always, if you support our efforts and know of other neighbors and residents that are also against this location, please let me know, our group of supporters grows every day!!!
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> I apologize if you are receiving this email and have already asked to be removed, I have had some significant internet problems and my group distribution lists and email lists were also affected.
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> (For those of you that attempt to discredit me when my disclaimer is sometimes and accidentally omitted) I am a Broadlands resident who fought HCA building in our community for 2 years before being hired by Loudoun Hospital. While I volunteered my time to serve, for several years, on the HOA Board of Directors as well as the Neighborhood watch, I decided not run again and therefore, I no longer hold either seat. While I am also an employee of Inova Loudoun, I am not speaking on their behalf…I am speaking as a resident who opposes HCA’s plan to build in Broadlands.

 

Thanks Jim for posting this. That is one of the reasons I also sent that email to those homeowners that support HCA so that they were aware of what I was doing, since everything I send seems to end up here or in the newspapers.

As my response back to you stated, I was aware of your concerns and stated that I will and would not be using those people that I did not hear back from. I want our list of supporters to be authentic...

I appreciate how important you feel my emails must be to feel the need to share them with this forum.

 

Does anyone have any idea how much INOVA has spent to fight BRMC (I didn't know they actually had a "campaign manager" to manage the front group)? Any idea how much HCA has spent to fight for BRMC?

Just makes you think--what if those millions of dollars (my assumption when all is totaled) and all that effort could have been put into community service projects to actually help people...rather than fight a competitor.

 

The email said if you don't want to be included in her list respond back. The email came to my SPAM folder. If I hadn't checked there and told her to remove me I would have been on her list. I think that INOVA better start from scratch on the list since I don't have any idea how I was on hers anyways. I have been a supporter if HCA always especially after my ER experiences at Loudoun.

 

The email that Donna sent out this morning disgusts me. How can she obtain my email address and say if I do not respond my name will be listed on a petition. I have never given her my email address or name. To me this means she has taken the information as a member of the HOA and used it for her personal use. I believe the HOA has opened itself up to severe liability issues if this was done.

What makes me even more mad is the first time I received an email from her about the hospital awhile back I asked to be removed from her email list. So what happens now... I already previously requested to be removed and am still on this list. How can one be certain that their name is not going to be put on a petition when she doesn't even do what she says.

 

It would be of interest to know how Donna acquired the email addresses. It could be argued that, since her group is incorporated, it is subject to the CAN-SPAM Act and any email previously sent, for which an "unsubscribe me" was received but not processed within 10 days, is an infraction of that law.

However, I really don't think that's the right solution.
Donna, why not set up a website where you can allow people who are supporters to opt-in, instead of blanketing the Broadlands email network and assuming people who don't reply to opt-out are inherently supporters? Most incorporated entities are doing it this way now, to prevent themselves from the scrutiny of CAN-SPAM.
As people mentioned, a lot of things can happen to email in cyberspace, and many heuristic-based spam filters are just paranoid enough that some people, who may not be supporters, may not get your email in the first place.

Peace, everyone.

 

you can always block her email if you don't want it.

 

If I blocked her email then apparenly my name would be submitted.

 

Lisa, Somewhere over the past 7 years, your name was given to me as a person interested in being informed about the hospital issue. I have taken action to have your name removed.

No email list has ever been available to any board member, that I am aware of, on the HOA, so your accusation is without foundation and is untrue.

You found my email disgusting? Seems like an awfully strong word for an errant message.

 

Well shazam shazam! How did all these people get on that mailing list? I'll stop there.

I too received Donna's email. But I will not be asking to be removed from the list, as I am on their as an alias. I find it insightful to continue to get a first had view into the tactics being used. I want to keep getting the emails.

Sorta makes the whole, "let's confirm our supporters list", a little moot. I know a few other folks that are using the same approach.

Seems like a cheap way to try and get a list of supports put together. I can see it now, "Everyone in Broadlands is against the hospital, except for those who told me they didn't want to be on this list."

 

Donna - we both got your email today and AT NO TIME did I or my husband ask to be on your distro list, however we have each stated on several occasions for the removal of our seperate emails - yet you continue to SPAM us.

As for unfounded - Interesting that more than a handful of residents are now questioning how you obtain their emails for your Inova campaign. Seems like you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

I echo Lisa comments, I was disgusted when your email came in this morning @ 8:49AM and then laughed my butt off when you sent a "recall notice" on your orginal message at 8:51AM & 12:45PM. What a joke - stop sending out the spam. We have already turned over your email address to Comcast for investigation of email abuse and as a "resident" I would like to hear from the HOA that you at no time abused your position to obtain email addressed generated from either the BHOA or the Neighborborhood watch distro list.

...have the decency to not threaten me with legal action (again as you have done in the past via the Wash Post blog).