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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. SarasMom

    SarasMom Member

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    Check your spam folders! I just did and had a message from Rebecca Zoellner of CCB. Subject is " EMail List Update" and it was sent at 12:04pm today. There is now an option to unsubscribe from their email list as well as "all lists".

    I've got the message if anyone wants it forwarded.
     
  2. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate everyone making such a fuss about the "unsolicited" e-mail. It brings the organization attention it may not have received otherwise. And I'm sure member support will increase as folks now know where they have a voice.
     
  3. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    ... which is true for both organizations (for and against). I agree, good work. ;)
     
  4. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Well...with all the deceit and controversy associated with "the list", I can't imagine any list from CCoB having credibility. There is always going to be doubt. Especially when integrity requirements and suggestions have to come from peer pressure and outside influences.
     
  5. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I am quite sure membership continues to grow. Just doubt much of it is actually from Broadlands. ;)
     
  6. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    i WANT each side to find its voice so we can know more realistic numbers of local support or NON support for BMRC.
     
  7. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    WHO KNEW?! I got the opt-out e-mail! And I have never gotten any e-mail correspondence from them before???

    I have NEVER been against BRMC, NEVER told anyone I was otherwise, NEVER signed any petitions, NEVER willing gave out my hotmail address.

    Yet, how did they get my address? Hmmmm
     
  8. SarasMom

    SarasMom Member

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    Yep, me too. This is my FIRST ever communication from them. Interesting!
     
  9. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    So let's see... They added MORE addresses to their list without people's authorization, and now to be removed, you need to go through their removal process.

    Smells fishy to me; the question again remains, How did T8erman and SarasMom's email addresses get added to the list between last week and this week? Where were these addresses 'acquired' from?

    If the list did not contain those 2 addresses last week, and the 2 users in question have not requested to be added to any list since that time, how did they magically appear in this 'new' list?

    CCB has some explaining to do... They should NOT be adding email addresses to their list and then asking people to opt-out.

    If this is how they manage email addresses, I can just imagine how they would handle the money/donations they are requesting...
     
  10. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Very true. This issue affects the entire county population and beyond...
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Then it should be called 'Concerned Citizens of Loudoun County and Beyond'....

    It's a false representation otherwise...
     
  12. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Not really. A number of organizations with a specific cause are widely funded. Have they misrepresented themselves?
     
  13. cmbm

    cmbm New Member

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    I received confirmation that I was removed from their list. I had also asked how I got on the list and they did not know. The email answer I recieved said it could have been from a referal from another resident.

    That in it self does not seem ethical. I could send a list with all the people in my childrens' schools, scout groups, and anyone else for that matter if it is a referal.

    I do believe that is how my household was added though due to the email accounts they were sent to!
     
  14. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    I'm not talking about funding, which is a separate issue. I'm talking about their organization name misrepresenting their actual membership.

    (The following is simply an example, and not based on any true numbers)
    If an organization called "Concerned Citizens of Broadlands" claims a membership of 500 people, would most people not assume that 500 Broadlands residents are part of their organization, and as such, opposed to the hospital?

    I don't know how much clearer this needs to be for someone to see the mis-representation...
     
  15. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    No responsible organization should be using email addresses which they have no idea how they acquired.

    Two scenarios here;

    1. They know how they got the addresses but are using the 'referral' answer as a loophole/cover story.
    2. They grab email addresses that anyone gives them and add them to their list without the owner's consent.
    Both these scenarios are 'irresponsible/bad business' if you ask me...
     
  16. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Then please provide an example.
     
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    I would like to know how many people received the email today from Rebecca after you had previously requested to be removed. I refuse to use their new opt-out link since it asks for more information than just email address and appears to me to be a way of collecting information rather than removal from a list. I never gave them my email address, have requested to be removed now 3 times and no, my email address would not have been forwarded by any residents, etc. Is the HOA officially conducting an investigation into how the email addresses were obtained?
     
  18. jim

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    In my reply to Donna's last email, I asked that my email address be removed from the list. She confirmed that it had. We received Rebecca's email yesterday.

    My additional question on the procurement of the email adresses is, these emails are coming to our relatively new Comcast account. We received emails also under the old Adelphia account. How did they get both addresses? The addresses are different than just the adelphia or comcast suffix. There was an effort to keep the addresses up to date that I was not involved with.

    -Jim
     
  19. mamatothree

    mamatothree New Member

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    The HOA does maintain an email data base. We do not share personal information such as phone numbers or addresses without a resident's permission.
     
  20. jim

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    That is how we would expect it to be done and I don't think people are insinuating that the HOA was complicit. However, I think the question is if the HOA is looking into whether someone gained access to the data without permission and if so, who that person is.

    Whether the "Concerned Citizens" gained access to email addresses from school directories, cub scouts, brownies, or some other non-HOA entity is a separate question.

    -Jim
     

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