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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The official tally of speaking for BRMC was 57, against was 59...the majority of which are affiliated with Inova. What a surprise.

    But hey...I'm with you. I would support a hospital on Rte 50 too.

    TOO BAD NOBODY...NOT HCA, NOT INOVA...WANTS TO BUILD ONE THERE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!

    You, me, or Inova has no business telling HCA where they should have to choose a location to build a hospital if it is not viable for them!

    Given that NOBODY will build a Rte 50 hospital for years, the county has the opportunity to get another one NOW, BRMC. All the other obvious reasons this is the right location have been discussed previously.

    Doesn't it strike any of you that the single biggest opponent, the one that has spent what must be hundreds of thousands of dollars opposing it, has been fearmongering and threatening its employees and the county with closures, the one that is falsely leading to people a hospital can be built now on Rte 50, the one that is funding a so-called "citizen" group.....is the only competitor to this facility!!!!!!

    Jeez, wake up and smell the coffee!!!!! Do you really think they care about any of us over their own financial best interest??????

    Spaceguy- give me a call sometime. I'd enjoy talking to you about this issue. Assuming, of course, we haven't already spoken.
     
  2. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Cliff, I heard Judge Horne put the smack down on the bogus INOVA lawsuit to shut out the HOA vote in support of the hospital. Great judicial decision. Did Briggs show up? Was he seated on a chess board if he did? What a pawn.
     
  3. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    No, neither of the Biggs were there. The entire courtroom consisted of:
    The Biggs attorney (Broadlands resident Lawrence McClafferty), myself, our attorney, and Erica Jacobsen (Leesburg Today) and Shannon Sollinger (Loudoun Times Mirror) in the audience.
     
  4. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    HAHA! The Biggs didn't show, you've got to be kidding me. Only the INOVA lawyer showed up! What a crock. How anyone can anyone think Citizens against Broadlands Hospital is anything more than a front group for INOVA.
     
  5. spaceguy1

    spaceguy1 New Member

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    I also think that is a great idea. I would take it one step further and require that all speakers who are county residents get to go first. There were a lot of speakers representing both positions who came from outside the county -- and a number of county residents who waited patiently until the end to get their chance to speak.

    I stayed for the entire hearing, as I have done in the past. But let's be fair when we talk about people being bused in for the hearing. Both HCA and Inova have been doing that, and in some cases providing box lunches for their supporters. But understand that a lot of the speakers were there representing their own families' concerns -- and have no allegiance to Inova. Inova is just one of the parties who happens to have the same goal as we do, which is to not see a hospital built in Broadlands. Residents along Rt 50 and in Western Loudoun have the same goal, albeit all of us for different reasons.
     
  6. spaceguy1

    spaceguy1 New Member

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    That is a bit of an exaggeration. I was there for the entire hearing, and while the number of speakers was split roughly 50/50, there were a larger number of opponents in the audience. And I am aware that both HCA and Inova bused in supporters. While there were some speakers affiliated with Inova, there were an equal number of speakers affiliated with HCA at the podium. The majority of the opposition speakers were residents like myself who oppose the hospital in Broadlands. I knew many of those people -- they are my neighbors. That's why, in a previous post, I agreed with our Supervisor that paid proponents of one position or the other should speak last. I also think County residents should be allowed to speak first so the supervisors and planning commission can get a better feel for their concerns. We know what HCA and Inova think. This is supposed to be a citizen's forum.
     
  7. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    I wholeheartedly agree!!!
     
  8. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    A very good point to make.
     
  9. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    That is probably the single biggest understatement I have seen in 11 years of watching Loudoun County politics!!!!!
     
  10. joy

    joy New Member

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    I tend to stay out of this but my curiosity has gotten the better of me. Why has the argument seemed to boil down to putting the hospital in Broadlands or on Route 50? I would think that the County as a whole would be better served by having its second hospital in the area of Leesburg (Cornwall maybe?).

    I still think Broadlands was picked because they believe that it will get the most people with the biggest ability to pay (i.e. MONEY). I think it's too close to Inova Loudoun to be the best location in the County as far as meeting the needs of our residents. So, thinking as a County Resident about proper Planning, I'd prefer it elsewhere, but I don't think Rte 50 is the right place either. However, thinking selfishly, I'm not going to fight against having a hospital less than five minutes away from my house in the event of an emergency.
     
  11. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Then why did Loudoun Hospital move FROM Leesburg in the first place? MONEY and access to the large eastern Loudoun population base.

    Hospitals are not solely about geography.
     
  12. typicalfamilyoffour

    typicalfamilyoffour New Member

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    Sorry if I'm hijacking... The article in the LoudounExtra made mention of the stacks of petitions submitted by the Concerned Citizens of Inova Hospital to the various supervisors at the last meeting. Are those petitions made public?

    I've never joined the fray publicly on this issue but suspect my name may be on one of those lists even though I'm 100% for BRMC. I got a very strange phone call days before the last meeting from someone who assumed I was against the project. I'm going to be a very unhappy camper if my name is on one of those lists.
     
  13. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    typical-
    PM me your name and I can try and check.
    The "stack" actually was 9 copies of the same lists, one for each supervisor. Also, the majority of it was copies of things previously submitted.
    Close to 200 of the names are from Inova employees. Also, many of the pages had copies of email chains, etc., so that in over 400 pages there was only a couple hundred names. It wasn't near as much as claimed.
    Many of the signatures were on petitions that did not even address BRMC. They simply said to "follow the plan" which, according to county staff, BRMC does.
     
  14. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    Unlike Cliff, I did not review the petition list of names and recognize 200 as Inova employees.
    I did, however, see my name on the list. I completely understood what I was committing my name to, and intended to be on the list. I am a resident of the Broadlands whose home will not be impacted directly by any commercial development on the site being considered. So, at least two names(mine and my wife's) are valid.
    I found it interesting that most of the speakers in the first hour of the hearing that were in favor of the hospital were from Western Loudoun County, or even western Fairfax County.
     
  15. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    you are surprised that people who do not have NIMBY influences are more likely to support a project? FASCINATING!
     
  16. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Don't assume facts not in evidence, me bucko. I have not seen the petition list.
    I am also not surprised folks from Western Loudoun support BRMC. After all, it is a COUNTY facility and the VAST MAJORITY of western Loudoun residents would be closer to BRMC than any location on Rte 50.
     
  17. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    Lookie here, boys and girls! We have a winner! Ding! Ding! Ding!:happygrin:

    Amazing how so few actually get this!

    Bravo!

    Dear well intended but misguided anti-hopsitalists! Take note here! This logic will indeed assure that you'll lose this cause.
     
  18. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    Get what? That people who live 5 minutes away from the hospital don't see a problem with it?

    I am more concerned with how the people who will be living adjacent to the hospital feel about it.

    I would not mind having a hospital 5 minutes away, but I don't think I would like a hospital 15 seconds away though.
     
  19. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    Well...Aren't you a good Samaritan taking up the cause for the common man and woman! I can almost bet you're not one of the 15 or so homes that meet your own definition! Drinking the Kool-Aid???? Are you the same group that complains about the airplane noise knowing full well that when you purchased your home it was next to one of the busiest airports in the world??

    Pulllleeezzze!!:huh:

    Like I said...but it and the Metro station in my backyard. No problem! I think this entire thread if full of lies, pablum and other floatsam and jetsam than the posters haven't thought through one iota! If you want to be angry...be angry that your education hasn't taught you to think critically without someone pulling your strings!

    :happygrin::happygrin:
     
  20. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    I was there and that's just not true. Most of the speakers in the first hour were from Loudoun and many were from Broadlands and Ashburn. Very few were from Fairfax.

     

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