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INOVA in the mix

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by afgm, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. jeanne

    jeanne New Member

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    Barbara...any timeframe given by Inova for a hospital on Rt. 50? They expressed concerns with LHI's CPAM and a hospital in this area to the HSANV as follows:

    There are only about 13 patients a day from that area now. Even with rapid population growth projected along Route 50, the Dulles and Southwest planning subareas are projected to generate only about 75 patients a day by 2020.

    Because a Dulles south hospital would reduce out-migration and would need to attract patients from outside Loudoun County, the possibility of a hospital in the Dulles south area causes concerns among Inova Health System, Prince William Hospital, and Fauquier Hospital.

    Inova, through both Fair Oaks Hospital and Fairfax Hospital, is the dominant provider of hospital care to persons in the Dulles south area.

    Source: Needs Assessment Study for Planning Commission by HSANV
     
  2. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Im my view, the denial of HCA's first COPN was the "politically greased" one.

    Interesting that in his ongoing attempts to defeat BRMC Rod Huebbers talked about all the great plans for expansion of LHC to meet the county's needs. He also claimed for a long time that Loudoun did not need another hospital. Now that he's received his fat payoff from Inova, he admits that LHC did not have the finances to do the improvements he promised, and that LHC was unable to meet with the demand of the growing county population. Wow! What a two-faced ***.

    As I've said before, boy am I glad Inova bought out LHC and it will not continue under the leadership of this clown.

    Also, ponder this. Do you really think Inova has any real intention to build a hospital any time in the next several years so that it can compete with another of its own hospitals? I sincerely doubt it.
     
  3. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Barbara, I must say your true colors are showing. And before you take it the wrong way, you are perfectly within your rights to voice your opinions, but I must say, you are the poster child for a new term.

    OIMBY - Only in my back yard.

    What the heck did Bob do to you? Just because he has the guts to tell it like it is, you find it necessary to call his newspaper, "light coffee table reading". That's taking it a little personal don't you think.

     
  4. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    Let me throw out a hypothetical here.

    Having been involved in a merger of two companies; and eventually being outsourced because of it, I may have an idea of what may have been going on.

    Most mergers are very closely held until they are finally agreed to. I know in my case, the original talks were over a year and a half; from informal talks between two CEOs, to the final agreement.

    I really don't know how long Inova and LHI have been talking merger. However, knowing it is in the works, Huebbers could have known for six months or more what was coming ..

    Just a thought.



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  5. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Very thought provoking!

    I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't in the works for years. Even pre-HCA. INOVA established close ties with LHC several years ago. As mentioned, INOVA loaned them money to get them out of the financial pickle created by the Lansdowne Campus.

    I also wouldn't be surprised if Huebber was actually a front man for the inevitable INOVA vs. HCA battle that has now broken out.

    And for me, as a potential consumer. I couldn't be happier. This is the best scenario. Two powerhouses wanting to serve Loudoun. There is room for both.

    Note: Reston is a for profit HCA hospital, and Fair Oaks is a non-profit INOVA hospital. Both are thriving. Ironically, they are 5 miles apart. Sounds repeatable to me.

     
  6. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Inova had wanted to buy LHC for quite a while. They finally paid Rod and Woody enbough cash to get it done. (Something whispered to me by a little birdy that is a highly positioned doctor at LHC who gave an individual at Inova that very advice!)
     
  7. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    Cool ... glad to know that the almighty $$$ still rules !! [8D]

    Neil Z.
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  8. Donna

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    Cliff, can I clarify it is a merger. Also I would like to know your source...since I seem to always be asked that question who exactly is this highly positioned doc at LHC? Just curious.;)
     
  9. neilz

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    Donna ... there are 'mergers' then there are 'mergers'. In my company, the only thing merged was the executives, most of the IT department got let go in favor of the 'other' partner's !!



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  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Let's see, LHC's voice on the Inova Board will be one voice in 20....nope, still sounds like a takeover, not a merger.

    As far as the source, I'll keep that to myself. After all, I can't verify what they told me was true. Why don't you ask Rod and Woody what their payoff was? That way you can get it straight from the horse's mouth.

    It's a win-win for all.........People make money and Loudoun gets competent hospital management!!
     
  11. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Let's analyze this...I'll give you $200 Million and we can merge OK? Politically it was called a merger, but in corporate america it is called an aquisition. Happens all the time, wait until the "merger" eliminates the overhead. LHI will become much more efficient. INOVA is not going to cough up that 200M without apply some "efficiency" to the bottomline. Welcome to big corporate healthcare. How ironic. Sure makes the need for competition that much more essential.

     
  12. Barbara

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    So, can we conclude that yes, things have been in the works that none of us were aware of for quite some time now?

    I will postulate that HCA should have taken more time upfront with their paperwork and plans.

    I will also speculate that we're going to be seeing some sour grapes for a while! ;)

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
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    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    It would be a very reasonable conclusion that the aquisition was being discussed for a signficant amount of time before the announcement.

    It would be a leap to conclude this event proves that the SCPAM was in the works for a long time.

    I am not sure why there would be sour grapes. I have heard mostly very positive reactions to this development.

     

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