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Mail box bashed in broad daylight

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Jcubed, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    This map shows a total of 12 incidents in this community this year most (8) of which were theft from vehicles (and 3 of those thefts were from unlocked or running cars) and 2 were graffiti. While any crime is not an acceptable one people do need to do what they can to protect themselves and their property. Most of these are crimes of opportunity not some new violent trend that is coming to Broadlands.

    Staci
     
  2. jwf

    jwf Well-Known Member

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    A crime of opportunity is still a crime. These aren't people that "need" ipods and GPS's and laptops because they can't afford them. They do these things because they have nothing better to do or they expect to take these small items and sell them for money to buy drugs.

    Don't forget that these "crimes of opportunity" affect us all in lower property values and increased insurance rates.

    The minute we start excusing crime of any sort is the minute we start to lose civilization.
     
  3. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    That's so true! That website shows the crimes committed but doesn't show the follow up to know who the perpetrator was, which would be interesting to learn. Since many of the crimes are vehicle break-ins to steal things left in plain sight (I'm assuming) I wonder how many of them are committed by strangers coming to the area or by local kids getting into trouble. If it's outsiders that's one thing but if these things are being done by local kids then we have a different kind of problem on our hands.
     
  4. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    I did not say it was not a crime, it definitely is. But IF they had not left the items in plain sight, or IF they had locked the doors or IF they had not left the keys in the car would these crimes still have occurred? I don't know and neither do you. People need to take some responsibility for their own property and take the necessary precautions to protect it.

    Everyone around here wants someone else to take care of everything or blame some one else for their misfortune. If instead of waiting for someone else to take care of it people would take responsibility for locking up their belongings, responsibility for themselves and their children, responsibility their own decisions and be willing to pay the consequences when those decisions are bad then I think you would see a lot of this type of crime go away.

    And to answer Villager the Sheriff's office believes most if not all of these crimes were committed by people living in the community or associates of the victims. With being involved with the NW I get follow ups to almost all of these incidents.

    By the way do not forget there is a NW meeting on Wed May 6th at 7pm at the Nature Center to discuss home security

    Staci
     
  5. jwf

    jwf Well-Known Member

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    Wow, blame the victim. Now there is an original idea. What about the break-ins and assaults? Is it the homeowners fault for answering the door when someone knocks and then they get robbed?
     
  6. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. No where in there did I say it was the victims fault or that they deserved to be victims. You are the one who is claiming this whole community is falling apart and part of some major crime spree and that it is unsafe to live here. All I am pointing out is there are a lot of things people can do to help prevent making themselves victims.
    If more people in this community took some of these simple steps (ie locking car doors, not keeping valuables in view, not answering the door if they don't know people, not leaving your keys in your car, turning on exterior lights at night, etc.) I think you would see a lot of these crimes go away!!! Will it ever be perfect NO. We do not live in Utopia but we do not live in an area of uncontrolled crime either.

    Staci
     
  7. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    :agree:

    it still shocks me when i hear that people leave their cars unlocked with valuables inside, or even leaves keys in their car. that's just asking for it. just because we don't have gang members roaming the streets doesn't mean there aren't dishonest people picking off the property of the naive.

    NOTHING insulates a neighborhood from crime- not income, not the "type" of people who live there- nothing. everyone has a responsibility NOT to make it easier for crimes of opp to happen, b/c THEN guess what next? word gets out about the easy pickins in the Broadlands and suddenly more little petty thieves make their way around looking for more chances to make an easy score.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. JLC

    JLC Member

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    We lock our cars. We forgot to do it one time. That was the night we had the GPS stolen. We weren't asking for it - we made a mistake.
     
  9. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    I don't think anyone is blaming people who accidently left their car unlocked. I think the comments were more aimed at people who, as a habit, leave their cars unlocked and sometimes with the keys inside.
     
  10. jwf

    jwf Well-Known Member

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    My point is the only people that should be blamed are the ones that committed the crime.
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    JWF, the issue isn't one of 'who to blame'; you came on these forums posting what seemed to be an insinuation that there is a crime spree in Broadlands and that all hell is breaking loose. Some folks disagreed with you, stating that the crimes reported on the site you posted a link to showed mostly vandalism and some thefts from cars in Broadlands. Nobody was saying the victims were to blame; I think folks were simply trying to make the statement that what you deem as being a crime spree in our community isn't viewed as such by local law enforcement and residents.

    You'll also notice that as we get closer to the end of the school season, many of these types of 'crimes' will increase, and once school goes back into session, they decrease. It's a well known fact that most of the crimes reported are ones committed by folks living in our community, who are bored, etc.

    You can keep posting that you think Broadlands is riddled with crime; that's your perogative. But I would suggest that if it concerns you as much as you make it seem in your postings, that you contact the Broadlands Neighborhood Watch and get involved. I'm sure they would love some additional help, especially from some folks passionate about making a difference in our community. THAT'S how you can make a difference; not by simply complaining here.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  12. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    that's totally different- a mistake is not the same as regular naive habits- i wasn't referring to a situation like that...

    sorry your mistake cost you- who knows- they may have tried your car doors time and time again til THEY got lucky.
     
  13. jwf

    jwf Well-Known Member

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    Ok point taken Mr Linux. Apparently I am unable to make a cogent argument on right and wrong and I apologize. I never said that I think Broadlands is experiencing a crime wave. Your words not mine. But nevertheless, I feel that I am no longer providing any value to this topic so I am done.
     
  14. jwf

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    This happened to us sometime Monday night. We had thought is was an accident because of the trash can. Very frustrating.
     

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