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Discussion in 'Community Broadband & Computers' started by lilpea, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    I am hoping the Tech Guru's out there could provide some input...

    What are your thoughts on Vista? (so far I'm not sold on it and it seems like you need more DRAM >3GB vs. using NT)

    What OS do your like for simple MS office use...NT or Vista? and why?

    Any buy a PC from Costco? ... We have the EC membership so we can extend the warranty by two years

    For a budget of $12-1400 - what would you recommend for a desk/mini tower PC (no need for monitor - we have a 37"lcd that I will use)?

    below are my mini requirements...am I in la-la land for expectations based on our budget?
    Processor Core Quad or greater (if possible)
    L2 Cache 8Mdgor more
    Beefy/Fast Graphics & Media Card
    CD/DVD/ RW comp w/Lightscripe
    Lots and LOTS of front inputs -USB firewire etc
    HD Greater than 500GB

    any thoughts of recs would be awesome - trying to do my homework before we make an impluse buy. Thanks
     
  2. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Geez Pea! 500 GB drive? How many baby pictures are you taking?? :)

    BTW $12 won't get you much of a machine, I'd lean towards the $1,400.

    (I think I am feeling sarcastic today)
     
  3. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Vista compatibility is pretty good now - question is... is the benefit really there? Many would say no. Vista vs XP though is going to vary based on your buying.. you didn't say if you were willing to build a machine vs buy a preconfigured machine. XP is going to be harder and harder to get in preconfigured machines.

    That last point is important. At the very low end, its very very hard to beat the off-the-shelf prices. At the mid-range it depends on sales.. At the high end it is always cheaper to build your own.

    If you can answer build vs buy.. that helps a ton.

    I just build in January an insanely over powered machine for my needs for less then $1k. DEAD Silent, high end video, RAID, 4gigs of high performance RAM, and a mid-to-high end CPU (not the bleeding edge). I built this one with the intent of having the most reliable, quiet machine while still being very fast to game on. Couldn't be happier with the results.

    I would offer to help with a build for little to nominal cost - I'm just not interested in continuing support :) I get enough of those calls from the family :)
     
  4. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Flynn - Thanks for the input.

    I am open to both building and of the shelf, hubby has built our PC's for the past 8 years. We dont have as much free time as we use to -(with the addition of lil pea) I am looking into an "of the shelf product' vs having him build one - mainly b/c our current PC is on life support and my laptop is nearly 5 years old.

    Since this will be my own PC - hubby will have his own for gaming etc...I know that I am really only using it for MS Office applications w/ a little bit of graphics Quark etc.

    Is it true if I plan to do video/media rich applications than the Vista OS maybe a bit easier than the XP/NT? Call me old fashion but I like the NT OS.

    Thanks again for your help.
     
  5. glockenspiel

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  6. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    LOL - too rich for my blood - trust me that was on the top of my list:angryfire:
     
  7. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    Chez Kaos is completely converted to AlienWare laptops. The M9750 starts at $1300, but you'll need to beef it up to really get Vista running. Their customer support is good & they will finance you "on the spot."

    At least check them out.
     
  8. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    1) don't speak of NT again - there is nothing good there except protected memory :)

    2) vista has yet to prove to make media easier.. just prettier to play with. the apps still own that area

    3) decide on laptop vs desktop - gotta get past that hurdle early.

    Laptops I find fine for a internet terminal and light work - but you end up paying too much, with too little future if you buy one to be a heavy duty workstation or gaming machine.
     
  9. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Only desktop...I need a work horse for MS office applications and maybe a bit for pictures.
     
  10. christinaandrob

    christinaandrob New Member

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    my other half has found some steals on dell recently. especially in the outlet section of their website.
     
  11. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    Personally I'm a big fan of Vista. I do web design (photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc) and have had no problems with it (unlike XP Pro). I use Vista at home and XP Pro at work and the problems I get with XP often make me want to pull my hair out. Vista can be annoying at times with security warnings, but the stability far far outweighs XP. I've also had no problems running any of my applications, I can't think of any offhand that I ran in XP that doesn't run in Vista. Even my 3gp video convert program to xfer video to my cell phone works, but you have to put it in XP SP2 compatibility mode. :)

    I can't imagine why anyone would want XP over Vista at this point.
     
  12. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    less overhead... my kids laptop has never felt snappy with vista... its loaded with RAM and has a reasonable CPU
     
  13. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    Another thing... a 37" monitor won't be a great choice unless it's full 1080p. If it's 1366x768, the resolution will look bad at that size. You really only need a beefy computer if you play games or process a lot of media. Normal office apps and stuff like that you can get by with a $5-800 Dell IMHO.
     
  14. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    boomer - thanks for the heads up on the PC - going to check out the dell "store".
    The monitor(TV) - it is 1080i (I know that p is better) but at the res it should be ok?

    We moved it out of our son's nursery so I could use it. Seriously what 1 year old needs a flat screen in their room (ours of course LOL)?

    thanks
     
  15. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

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    Part of the idea I got stuck on as well was Vista 64 bit versus 32 bit. One big factor in my decision was the RAM issue. Vista 32 bit will only recognized around 3 gig of RAM, and that is all it ever can do given the limitations in 32 bit computing. Vista 64 bit I believe has a ceiling of around 16GB but motherboards are not set up for that.

    Anyway, I just built a desktop and went with Vista 64 bit Home Premium and have 4 gig of RAM. I did this mostly for future capability in video editing and mastering. I want to get a HD camera soon and and I also with with a Quad core but not the most expensive.

    The only concern I would have going with mainstream like Dell, HP etc. is that you are really stuck with their configurations. Now the Dell XPS line is a good choice for what you described but may be over your budget. Also, I think if you want to look a little, I would browse Best Buy - they sell Alienware I believe.

    But there are quite a few good internet CA firms that sell great PCs like you want I think. Check out a few for information etc. CyberpowerPC, and ibuypower. But I would go with Vista for sure... at the end of the day, this will be around longer and is working very well now. I have had only some minor issues.
     
  16. GeauxTigers

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    How old is the TV? Unless it's fairly new, more than likely a TV that size is going to be natively around 720 lines of resolution although it can accept 1080i signals. This being said you probably won't be able to display more than a 1366x768 computer display. Your manual should spell out exactly what resolution it's capable of. While that may be enough to do what you want I suspect you will find it's an awkwardly low resolution for that size of display. My 20" LCD is running at 1680x1050 for example and feels about right.
     
  17. lilpea

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    Yup the TV is about 6 months old - Panasonic 37" 1080p (I was wrong when I said it was an I in an earlier post)...do you think am I wrong to assume it will be much better than our Viewsonic 20" monitor?
     
  18. GeauxTigers

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    In that case it won't be as bad. You should be able to get a 1920x1080 resolution out of it. If your Viewsonic is widescreen it likely has a 1680x1050 resolution so the TV will be more capable overall. I am not sure how the logistics of it would play out since a 37" is just too large to have as close to your face as you would have a 20" so it could be awkward in a typical desk environment but I really can't say for sure. Since you already have the TV, I'd recommend trying it first before considering buying anything. It could work just fine for you.
     
  19. lilpea

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    Geaux - good call on viewing placement - I've had it up and running for a few days...
    After working upto 14+ hours daily on huge word SOP's (for my job) it does make it easier on my eyes, but I also have a HUGE desk (5+ ft long 4 feet wide).
     
  20. gunzour

    gunzour "Living on the Edge"

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    pea, have you ever tried a dual-monitor setup? I have long been a fan of having two displays for added productivity. If you are going to use the 37" TV as your primary display, you might benefit from a smaller display as a secondary that you can keep closer to you. Your PC may be capable of dual output already, and you could have the doc you are editing on one display, with a reference doc on the other display, for example. Might also make it easier on your eyes to be able to switch focus from a closer monitor to one further away.

    Personally I am fan of BenQ LCD's.. you can get a 20" 1680x1050 with DVI connector for $189 at Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014168).
     

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