BRMC reapproved by Stroube

Health Commissioner speaks: Broadlands 'yes' -- Loudoun 'no'
By Shannon Sollinger
05/14/2005

State Health Commissioner Robert Stroube will stand by his original decisions regulating medical care in Loudoun - yes to the Broadlands Regional Medical Center, no to re-opening the old Leesburg hospital as the Western Loudoun Medical Center.

http://www.timescommunity.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=14528470&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=506035&rfi=6

 

Victory?

 

Over/under on this thread is 35 pages.

 

"The project must still get approval from the Board of Supervisors to use its property in Broadlands, currently zoned for light office, for a hospital. The Planning Commission has recommended denial of the land use change, citing increased traffic and the expectations of homeowners who have bought houses in Broadlands."


hmmm, wonder how those new houses will fare that are just being built across the street from it.

 

What hospital?

 

ROTF ...

As has been noted ... its up to the county ... then possibly the courts again ... based on what has been said publically, the BoS majority is not in favor right now.


Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

Looks like we need some new board members then :&lt

 

I agree ... but not for the same reasons ...



Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

If BRMC gets approved it will be tied up in the courts. If Inova Loudoun gets their plan approved they have no projections of when to start construction and you can bet the surrounding communities will fight it just as the folks around here fight against BRMC. So, no matter which side prevails, the only thing for certain is the fact that Loudoun county will see no new hospitals for at least 10 years.
It's pretty pathetic.

 

Maybe they'll tie up the approval in court long enough to get the new BoS on board (maybe get some sympathetic new supervisors). It only has to drag on for another 2.5 years or so, and I think that the appeals will go longer than that. So, we may actually have a shot...

 

The only opposition I see via community groups to any of the proposed CPAM locations are the ones in Leesburg who feel Cornwall will generate too much traffic in the historic district (where it sat for years as the only hospital in the county.

Down here the only groups I can see forming to oppose one in the Arcola/Aldie area are the ones (most of whose members don't live in Dulles) who oppose any service of any kind on Route 50.

Many of those flogging BRMC from outside of our district are the same ones who believe that none of us, Dulles North OR South, should be here. Keep that in mind as these folks make political hay on all of our backs. You gotta love 'em: they were at South Riding community yard sale this weekend handing out something I've been waiting for eagerly: recycled Campaign for the Future flyers screaming out "22K houses on Rte 50!!!", and new CLF/Coalition for Smarter Growth (both of whom are funded through the PEC) ones, with the same maps, warning about "22K houses on the TriCounty Pkwy!!!".

If we don't need east west roads AND north south ones, what does that tell us? In a by-right state, growth will come whether we put in roads (without tolls?) or not.

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Barbara,

Give it ten years! When the "proposed" Inova Rt 50 hospital is ready to go, there WILL be a totally different population base in that area. A population certain to complain and oppose the hospital. To think anything else would be naive and clouded in self interest.

 

AFGM, you and I both know that those most prone to "last house on the block" syndrome are the ones who moved in last week. We have a new fake group here taking its marching orders from Blue Ridge, who are ever so careful not to announce they moved from Fairfax into one-acre $1M by-right homes on a dirt road last year, and can't stand the thought of looking at other homes on property they don't own.

And as soon as the shock that no, ALL services are opposed on this corridor, wears off, they start yelling the loudest about "Where is my (insert favorite here)?" Usually initially accompanied by "Why can't we make the developers pay for it?" Which of course is why they aren't saying they live in a by-right.

What did you think of the front page article on Sunday's Post--Base closures will lead to "SPRAWL"? I howled--yes, let's continue to suppress road improvements which is what produced the gridlock in the first place, and get the Fed to build rail down through rural Fairfax to Belvoir. Since it will be "free", then everyone will use it, right? Howling.

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Barbara,
You seem to be an intelligent person so I find it difficult to belive you could be so naive to think there will be no local opposition to a hospital being built in the route 50 area (or any area for that matter). There will ALWAYS be the Nimby factor whether it be a hospital, a landfill, a WalMart, whatever.

 

Believe me, I have many more reasons than just the hospital.

 

Barbara,

I don't oppose a hospital on 50. What I oppose is a hospital on 50 instead of BRMC. How about we build both? BRMC now and then we will all campaign to get the one on 50 in 10 years when the population had reached a viable level. Sounds like a common sense approach to me if the growth rates here continue on the same path.

 

Barbara,

I know that development is your favorite topic but please don't
hijack this thread on the reapproval of the BRMC hospital by the
state. I would be happy to discuss this further if you want to
start a new thread.

BTW, I agree with vweisenberg 100% about mutually supporting
needed services. Why can't we have both?

skins fan

 

Skins, point taken on the thread hijack, but if you look back at when I joined, my position has always been that this has been a "smart" growth political issue.

I have to say to VW that while I agree that everyone should have access to service, if he refers to 10 years out as a first "viable" level for the entire 50 corridor, than he may have already swallowed the "there's nothing here" line chanted by the people who really mean "there shouldn't be anything there".

When BRMC came and presented to our HOA, they used data that suggested that there would be over 4000 people FEWER six years from now than were already just in our subdivision. The TODs approved next door to you put massive phantom projections on the books that are then counted as real people--who may not be here for ten or more years.

How the numbers are spun depends on who's doing the spinning. Suffice it to say that it is hardly surprising that Dr. Stroube would fail to reverse his reversal!

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Barbara,

I got my 10 years for viability from Inova. According to their own representatives, they estimate that the 50 corridor will not reach the appropriate level of demand for a new hospital until 8 to 10 years from now.

in addition, having been involved in the process to bring BRMC to reality for several years, there is little chance that the beds for a new hospital in the 50 corridor can be approved and brought online in less than 5 to 7 years. And that timeline assumes HCA and their beds simply go away. Since, that is not going to happen then the 50 corridor hospital will either have to be HCA's beds (not gonna happen either) or will have to wait at least until the state finds even with HCA's beds that there is a shortage in the HSA (not gonna happen either since the Cornwall application was rejected again). I would guess that we are looking at more than 10 years for a hospital on 50.

BTW, I am not"swallowing" the spin from either side. I make my judgements based on my own research and factual data. I couldn't care less if you turned the 50 corridor into Manhattan. Mora power to you. That is where we seem to differ since you clearly want to decide what Ashburn can do.

That aside, you have again avoided answering a question by deflecting to some vague group of "them". So I will ask again. Would you support the bulding of both BRMC and a hospital in the 50 corridor? Yes or No?

 

Reading back over your comment I realized I missed a statment you made that to be honest really angers me. This is not a "smart growth" issue for my family or for many other families in the county. This is a safety and health issue. PERIOD. You want to play games with Zoning, roads, schools, or whatever over slow vs. smart. vs no growth, have fun. But do not assume you can do the same with the hopital and related services we need.

I have been in the emergency room of Reston hospital waiting for my 4 year old daughter to get a spinal tap, becuase there was no chance in hell she was going to get the proper treatment at LHC. Both my wife and I have been seen in the ER and received what I will kindly put as "less than stellar" treatment. Every additional family that moves into Loudoun not only increases the pressure on the good hospitals we have now, but adds traffic that increases the time it takes to get from Loudoun to those facilities. You think waiting a decade to get the services my family and every other family in the area need is acceptable? It isn't to me. We needed this hospital years ago. BRMC can be runnning in less than 2 years. "Route 50 Hospital" can't. End of story.