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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Who said anything about HCA? The discussion was about those who believed a piece of property would be developed in a certain way before anything was even done to it or went on the sales pitch vs looking it up.

    Feel sorry for those who believe a sales person without any research of their own.
     
  2. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    I share your empathy...
     
  3. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    did anyone attend the metting on monday in leesburg...?
     
  5. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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  6. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Even if you don't qualify their statements... it's their posture I was referring to.

    BMRC is talking not about negating negatives... they are talking about value. INOVA is talking 100% about fears and threatening uncertainty.

    Someone needs to do some serious PR training if they think such a tactic puts their position in a good light. It's totally defensive and negative. Not the posture that tends to lead people to agree to your solution (Rt 50) - its a tactic that only gets people to agree with your negatives.
     
  7. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Yea, I like the "threat" of taking away the Cornwall campus if BRMC is approved. Niiiiiice
     
  8. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Don't forget that HCA has pledged to work with Inova t help fund Cornwall to ensure it remains open.
     
  9. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Here's the first "no" vote:

    Dear ____,
    Thanks for your e-mail. Happy New Year! It is good to hear from you.

    As you may recall, I opposed the BRMC application when it came before the
    previous Board. I also voted against settling the HCA lawsuit primarily because the entire lawsuit was not dropped. So if denied again, there will be a second suit and the first suit could be revived.

    I was disappointed to learn that there are flyers being mailed out that give an impression that I have taken a position in support of BRMC. After sitting
    through this application a second time, reviewing all the data, and meeting with residents, the applicant, health care professionals, and others, I have listenedto all sides, asked questions, and gave the application another fair look based on the land use issues presented in the application.

    The Board is scheduled to have a committee of the whole worksession on
    Wednesday. I will be in attendance, but I have no further questions to pose, especially given that the application is essentially the same one that was previously before us.

    After much deliberation and analysis, I have decided that my decision the first time around is still the correct one. I will be voting against the
    HCA/Broadlands rezoning and special exception applications. Feel free to share this information with your Leisure World neighbors.

    Stay in touch!

    Sincerely,
    Lori Waters
     
  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The end of this debate is in sight. The vote will most likely occur on Feb. 3.
    As it stands, BRMC will again be defeated. Vote will be 5-4.
    Winner: Inova.
    Loser: 300,000 residents of Loudoun county.
     
  11. mwb2218

    mwb2218 New Member

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    Cliff-so you think Burton will vote no? Whats your estimated tally on this?
    I thought he would be the swing vote w/ York, Burton, MCGimsey, Delgaudio, and Miller voting yes.
     
  12. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    I expect to see the county in court if they vote no.
     
  13. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    It's not over yet. HCA most certainly will sue the county.
     
  14. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    Delgaudio, haven't heard that name in a while -- what a lunatic he is!...
     
  15. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Delgaudio is a definite no. He voted against it last time, and his reason why has not changed.
    I think Burton is still a yes.
     
  16. CuriousGo

    CuriousGo New Member

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    Has anyone stopped to think how much a lawsuit will cost this county? Money that could be better spent on say, Education. In the end, the county will probably back off or lose anyways after wasting how much of our taxpayer money. BTW, I am truly tired of all the phone calls regarding the BRMC - both in favor and against. Yesterday alone we got two calls, after telling everyone several times to stop calling us.
     
  17. wahoogeek

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    on what grounds? Being a huge corporation with an army of lawyers, I'm sure they will too but I'm wondering if they truly have a legal issue to pursue (i.e., something invalid in the process) or will it be a strong arm tactic?
     
  18. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    Ah....don't worry about it. You'll just pay more for your healthcare. Inova's raising their rates again this year. Want healthcare reform??? Change the way doctor's and hospitals get paid from the government and insurance companies.

    Look at the entire way healthcare is financed. You're sick or have a condition or disease, you get to the doctor or doctors, you might get hospitalized or at the very least, undergo diagnostic procedures. Now let's look at that... regardless if you have insurance or not...it goes this way: The more they do, the more money they make. Doctors, hospitals, laboratories, drug companies.... all of them. The insurance companies make their money by a) not paying for wellness, b) witholding the care that your providers say you should get, b) not paying for it at all.

    So...doc, hospitals, drug companies say do more. Insurance companies (I'll include Medicare) say do less. None of them are paying for the right things...keeping you healthy so you lower the risk to sick.

    We need to turn this upside down.... the healthier you are and the more the providers do to keep you that way... the more they make. The sicker you are...and it's proven that earlier treatment and prevention could have helped...the less they get paid. But the powerful lobbies of the doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies and laboratories aren't about to cut thier profit margins. No siree! So we remain in this constant state of limbo. We don't have a health care problem in the US, boys and girls...we have a healthcare fiancing problem.

    As my kids say: Dad, you're doing it wrong!
     
  19. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    Watch and see.

    BTW/ Wahoowah!
     
  20. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    And this is the dirty little piece of reality that most people don't realize. As Inova keeps it's stranglehold on healthcare in Northern Virginia, they will drive prices up. Lack of competition leads to one company dictating costs to insurance companies.
    Earlier in this forum there is the Wall Street Journal article about what has happened to the healthcare costs in Roanoke after a "non-profit" hospital company gained its monopoly on hospital care there.
     

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