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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Donna,

    You are absolutely unbelievable! "THEY are fighting this..." Why don't you enlighten us and tell us who "they" are? Are THEY paying you a huge sum of money to post seemingly innocuous blog posts for the good of "your neighbors"?:rolleyes3:

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  2. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    I'll answer your question. The promoted CEO of Loudoun Hospital who worked for this glorious non-profit and was making over $650,000 a year. I'd say he's damn interested in wanting all that money. He got promoted because of his efforts to stall HCA the first time. I can't imagine the size of that bonus. This is but one example.

    Inova, regardless of non-profit, non-tax paying status, makes a boat load money. A heck of a lot more than Donna's referenced charity plans.

    Lee, BTW, being a non-profit significantly reduces the amount of public financial reporting you are required to do. Public corporations have to throw all kinds of sunshine on to their numbers. Non-profits can act in secret and then say whatever they want. Very little oversight.

     
  3. Donna F

    Donna F New Member

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    AFGM,
    You make it so hard for people to express their true concerns and frustrations on this website. For you to join the Broadlands forum and insult the residents that actually live here really is troublesome.

    I'm not going to attempt to defend any of the slanderous comments or lies you have and (I'm sure) will make because trying to debate with you on a rational level is not possible.

    You know so little and know it so fluently.
     
  4. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    You're last statement was more slanderous than the FACTS afgm poses. It is AMAZING that Mr. Randy Kelly (CEO of Loudoun) when onto public record and newsprint with his recent comments concerning the Route 50 corridor.

    afgm has NO vested financial interest in the BRMC debate. While you are in fact employed by Loudoun Inova as the Director of Community out reach.

    There are many strong supports of BRMC and want it to be built. Loudoun has a need per the population to hospital bed ratio, which is whoefully below the national average.

    Yet your post lewd to "fact" that residents do not want it to be built or having brmc build will lead to a hospital closure...which is it this time?

    Net - net: Donna you work for Inova and while some of your post contain facts - most just are self serving to your employer
     
  5. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    As a businessman, I would assume that a company like HCA would only invest millions of dollars, significant human resources and tons of hassle into this project if they had done their due diligence first to assess demand.

    After all, others have characterized any for-profit organization as simply profit-driven. And if they are profit-driven (good for them), would they invest these resources only to have their hospital run at low capacity?

    Something doesn't pass the smell test and sounds like fear-mongering here. So which is it? Is HCA lead by a bunch of morons who don't actually think about profit, or does HCA know that there is a large and burgeoning market here for health care services?

    My guess is the latter. And my guess is that INOVA doesn't want to share this revenue with any competitors. I'm fine with that, just wish there was a tad of honesty in the debate.
     
  6. wahoogeek

    wahoogeek New Member

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    where in the timeline of this epic saga did Inova purchase Loudoun Hospital? After HCA submission to BOS, prior to, after rejection?
     
  7. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    The difference is, Donna you are expressing the views of a corporation. A corporation that is fighting to the death to keep a stranglehold on your healthcare monopoly in Loudoun County.

    My ENTIRE point is you are no longer and have not been for a long just a "resident". You are paid for your views. You don't like it, nor do you like to admit it, but you do not speak for yourself. You certain can share your views with your employer, but you cannot walk away from the fact that you are compromised. You have a conflict. A conflict that you refuse to embrace.

    I happen to like to point out the fact one should listen to the money which is behind a message.

    Now if you want to debate an honest view, one that is honestly revealed as being from the source of your money than I am all for debate. But don't come off referencing something as clandestine as your reference to "they".

     
  8. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    This is complete and utter BS and YOU KNOW IT. By every possible measurable standard, Loudoun county is vastly underserved in hospital beds.

    Good. And they will continue to do this and ,in fact, IMPROVE their services due to competition. It's already been proven. Look at all the changes made with only the threat of competition.

    No. There charity care/indigent program exceeds that of Inova.

    And they propose to buld one there. Don't even start again with the comp plan that Loudoun Hospital proposed and got supported by the sycophants on the last BoS.

    Lots of us residents do want it here.
     
  9. Donna F

    Donna F New Member

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    There will never come a point where we agree on this subject, so no matter how hard you try to discredit me or the many others that have differing views than your own, we will continue to battle this issue.
     
  10. playingketchup

    playingketchup New Member

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    WHAT? One of our Board members who opposes the hospital is a paid employee of Inova? Holy smokes... Wow. That just furthers my concerns.

    As I read back here Ms. Donna F, it seems you have changed your tone. First, you say:
    and your posts include:
    Then in your last post its:
    I can only assume that "we" is Inova. This is pretty shocking to me and I hope to alot of other residents in Broadlands and throughout Loudoun County.
     
  11. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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  12. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Redon - I can tell you that brmc is NOT behind the calls - over the course of a few weeks I have spoken to several people from hca & brmc and all of which indicated they are NOT running a phone poll (at this time).
     
  13. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Playingketchup - I agree with you and echo your concerns about one of our board members (hoa) who not only opposes another hospital - while also being employed by Inova Loudoun.

    Having a heated debate with the "on-line' community members is a good thing.

    Where I see a pure conflict of interest is Donna F, who is EMPLOYED by Inova - nor does she reflect ALL broadlands residents. Donna's views against brmc are tainted b/c her paycheck comes from Inova Loudoun - plain and simple.
     
  14. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    know what they should do... stand on street corners and panhandle support for BRMC... lol
     
  15. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    :devil2: - now that was funny!
     
  16. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, Donna has stated that she does not oppose another hospital, she just opposes one so close to Loudoun (i.e. Broadlands).
     
  17. Mr Rogers

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    Heresay!:smash:
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    That is not entirely fair - because Donna has been opposed (and active about it) to the hospital LONG before she was employed by INOVA. You can't discredit her history based on her current employer - even tho they their position is aligned.

    edit: Failure to seperate those - is no worse then not allowing Cliff or others to have their own opinion beside's their HOA position.
     
  19. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    This hospital is always been about the site, so you are correct for once T8:happygrin:

    HCA really dug a deep hole for themselves picking this site. I have never seen as huge an battle about something that should for a good cause and has turned into hell.

    Lee j
     
  20. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    let me refresh your memory then- GSA building the facility in old ashburn!!! what is WITH the lousy location choices in this suburb?!?! restraurants on RedRum... boooo.
     

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