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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    are they taking bids for designers? horn in there and get the job lee! then we can ALL see your handiwork and Broadlands Blvd will have beeeyoootiful bldgs to brag about! ;)
     
  2. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The Virginia Health Commissioner extended the Certificate of Need for BRMC for another year ( despite loud challenges from Inova).

    This means that BRMC keeps its state approval for another year. It will still need to be approved by the county. That vote is expected to take place towards the end of this year.
     
  3. rich351854

    rich351854 New Member

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    Cliff why will the county not vote on it until the end of the year?
     
  4. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The application still has to be reviewed by county staff, then it goes to the Planning Commission for review and a vote, and then it makes it to the Board of Supervisors.
     
  5. Genco

    Genco Active Member

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    Extending the certificate was no surprise since the Secretary of Health and Human Resources, Marilyn Tavenner use to be with HCA and the Virginia Health Commisioner who extended the certificate reports to Ms. Tavenner.
     
  6. Mazinger

    Mazinger New Member

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  7. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Gee, what a shock...Inova opposes BRMC.
    They will continue with their fearmongering campaign to get the people on RTE 50 whipped into a tizzy to oppose BRMC.
    What Mr. Kelly didn't tell the Rte 50 crowd is that even after BRMC was defeated last time around, Inova told the county that a hospital on Rte 50 would not be viable for at least 10-15 years. So, inotherwords, they won't build one there EITHER WAY.
    They simply want to keep out competition so they can keep all the money for themselves.

    HCA has property along Rte 50 right next to Inova's. Do you really believe, even if BRMC is approved, that Inova will bow out of Rte 50 and give that region to HCA?
     
  8. Thunderchild

    Thunderchild New Member

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    Cliff, Since you seem to have lots of info regarding this can you explain why neither group has looked inot building a Hospital in Western Loudoun? I for one know that people out there would love a Hospital closer to them. My nephew has had to be rushed to the ER from Round Hill and the parents worried during that "long drive".
     
  9. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Simplistic reason is that there are not enough people in the west.
     
  10. Thunderchild

    Thunderchild New Member

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    So because the population is less they don't need a Hospital close? Or could it be BOTH organizations only care about the bottom line and not the people they serve?
     
  11. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Not being flippant, but yeah, they SHOULD care about the bottom line.

    Would you put a hospital in an area that cannot support it just because they do not have one? How will you staff it? How will you pay your bills? A hospital is just like any other business, if it doesn't make money, it will go under.

    Unless you want to pay more taxes to support one. ;)
     
  12. Mazinger

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  13. Thunderchild

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    T8erman,
    I understand what you are saying, but that area is still being developed and while this area is also expanding I believe the need is for Western Loudoun first. Just my thoughts.

    Many years ago I worked for a man who owned a Pharmacy and even though some of his patients couldn't pay for the medication he would not stop them from getting the meds they needed. Also, some of the patients were terminal and he knew he may never get paid.

    There are many ways to look at this and not all of it is black and white.

    Have a good day!
     
  14. Sunny

    Sunny Chief Advisor

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    Do you work for free? If so we need volunteers for Broadlands Live! Thanks!
     
  15. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is still being developed and when the numbers merit it, a hospital will most likely be debated for years and then finally built.

    I have lived in NoVa almost all of my 46 years. I have seen the area hospitals built as the population moved further west. BUT ONLY as growth merited it.

    With less people you also typically have less reasons to go to a hospital.

    Heck, Loudoun hospital even moved from downtown Leesburg to Lansdowne to be closer to the population base.
     
  16. Mr Rogers

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    Are you saying that it is wrong for Inova to launch a PR campaign to protect its interests?
     
  17. lilpea

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    Sadly - It is expected as is the tenacity of Inova's tactics to get the thumbs up for the rt 50 campus and than to stall it themselves citing the BRMC project...kind of makes Mr. Kelly's statement (earlier this year to the BoS) "approval of BRMC would kill any chance of a hospital for Dulles South residents in our lifetime."
    … a true sense...just shameful, yet predictable from Inova.
     
  18. Mr Rogers

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    Im am HONESTLY trying to distinguish between the tactics of the two organizations. They are both rallying full efforts to either launch or protect their projects. They have both used "SCARE TACTICS" although not nearly as severe as those used by politicos. They both want to have financially secure corporations, whether non-profit or for-profit.
    Aside from their tax stati?, I don't see a whole heck of a lot of difference.
     
  19. lilpea

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    I have to pinch myself - b/c I completely agree with you and your thought process on your statement. WoW!

    IMO - having an alternative (ie competition form Inova) in healthcare is paramount,at least for our family. The Rt 50 corridor is (in my uneducated opinion) also in need of a full service hospital, however the more educated would disagree with me - based on population studies.

    The BRMC project has been riddled with too much politico influence/prejudice and as time has gone on it has just gotten worse. just my $.02 on the topic.
     
  20. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    Well...it IS refreshing that the guy was at least honest in one regard. They'll lose business. However, if you look closer at the article, there are some problems with it.

    First, HCA is no the only "for profit" hospital. In fact, ALL hospitals are for profit. Just because you're a non-profit institution doesn't mean that you don't have to be profitable and it DOESN'T mean you give charity care!

    Second, hey...if your in a business, it's pretty simple...compete or get out! Don't have the "government" gerimander your competition! How about you improve your care? How about you cut your prices? Offer something they don't! Hospitals do this all the time...why the heck does Inova think they have to do it the easy way.

    My disdain for the Inova system grows with every comment I see. It's nice to start to see them crawl out from the rock they've lived under for years.

    Dear Mr. CEO, they call this business. Look it up.
     

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