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Children In Loudoun Schools

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by gryphon, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    Lee, all of this would be solved if more parents would home-school. This is one man's opinion only, but I think that Loudoun County's schools are unfit for the education of any child, and no kid in our family will ever set foot in them.
     
  2. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    And please enlighten me as to what you base this 'opinion' on? If you have never had kids 'set foot' in one, what makes you think you fully understand how they are run?

    And I guess per your statement, all the teachers in Loudoun County are unfit to teach our children and they should all be fired. In the spirit of extrapolation, which you seem to enjoy practicing in many Politics forum threads, you are then saying that any parent who sends their kids to a Loudoun County public school is a 'bad parent'.

    And then you wonder why so many people have you on their ignore lists.

    Thanks, but if you ask me, you can keep your baseless extremist views to yourself.
     
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  3. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Mr. Linux-
    Gryphon posted this a month or so ago on a different forum. I asked him to please explain himself.
    The silence was deafening.
    Although I do agree.....the more parents that home school, the more tax dollars we can spend on the education system without putting more kids into it!!!
     
  4. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Yes, that's typical of some of his posts; blanket statements, no facts, other users reply negatively to his statements and then he proceeds to send notices to the admins that he's being 'attacked' and that if we don't act, we'll be in big trouble...

    I'm tired of it all...
     
  5. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    I find your comment in this regard seriously off topic. However, since you raised it, answer me this: When have I wondered what you are accusing me off? Please show me the facts before you hurl such ludicrous accusations in my direction. If not, to borrow your outrageous language, "you can keep your baseless extremist views to yourself."

    We have friends that constantly talk about the mess in our county's public schools. We hear the horror stories from our neighbors, too. All the sensible parents we know are taking their kids out of the public schools and either home-schooling them or putting them in private schools.

    Don't put your words in my mouth. If that's what you think, you have a right to your opinion. However, I think some parents should learn more about the Loudoun shcool system before putting their kids into.
     
  6. Baywatch68

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    Wow. While I do not have kids, I have know plenty that have gone through the Loudoun County system and have turned out okay. They are well educated and socially adapt. All of the kids that I have known in the county that have been home schooled (between 10-15) have suffered in social ability and work ethic. They seem to be no more educated than any kid that went through the county system.
     
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  7. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    (Bold emphasis above was added by me; it was not part of the original quote.)

    I'm not putting words in your mouth, YOU are... You stated that "All sensible parents we know are taking their kids out of the public schools..." Thus, you are stating that I am not a sensible parent, which infers that anyone with kids in a Loudoun County public school is not a sensible parent, and potentially a bad parent.

    Yours words, not mine.

    If that's your opinion, that all of us with kids in Loudoun County schools are not sensible parents, then fine. But don't expect the parents of LCPS kids to just sit around while you insult them, and not fight back.
     
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    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    You do know that a good portion of your neighbors went to Loudoun Co. schools, WE turned out fairly well IMHO.
     
  10. T8erman

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    And just what have you learned?

    I can also say I have heard from "friends" and "neighbors" who love LoCo schools.
     
  11. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Gryphon-
    So you are basing the opinion from other, let me guess, parents that don't have kids in the public school system.
    I'd love to tell you some of the horror stories I am personally aware of about home-schooling and some of the private schools around here. But then, I don't assume that these few bad examples represent the totality of home school and private school education. I guess I am more evolved than using such a broad brush condemnation of something based on a few examples.
    I also know many of your neighbors. I also know many of them are actively involved in the school system and very happy with it. I guess I just missed the ones you talked to.
     
  12. gryphon

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    Dude, you need to go back to school and learn to read. I clearly said, "All sensible parents we know are taking their kids out of the public schools..." (Emphasis added). I don't know you, so how can I call you sensible or not? Sheesh. Please get a clue or an English dictionary.

    I see you conveniently failed to address this in your reply to me. Does it hurt you so much to reply truthfully? As I said earlier in this thread, I find your comment in this regard seriously off topic. However, since you raised it, answer me this: When have I wondered what you are accusing me off? Please show me the facts before you hurl such ludicrous accusations in my direction. If not, to borrow your outrageous language, "you can keep your baseless extremist views to yourself."
     
  13. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Gryphon, it's too late for you to back-off. You stated what you stated, now you get to reap the rewards from the parents you insulted. I'm done here discussing this with you. This is going nowhere and is totally off-topic. Please feel free to PM me or discuss this offline. Thanks.
     
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    I am glad to hear that, Lee. It is always good to hear that some parents see the light and are stepping up and taking responsibility for educating their kids. I don't think the government should be trusted to such a vital and important function, and no kids in our family will ever go to what I call a government school. The government does so little right that allowing it to teach our kids the right stuff makes no sense.
     
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    I have a cousin who sends her kids to public school and they get straight A's.

    I have a sister who sends her kid to public school and they get straight A's.

    I have friends who send there kids to public school and they get straight A's.

    I have people I do not know who send there kids to public school and they get straight A's.

    Our public schools have a well-rounded program and can lead students down many paths. Home schooled kids seemed destined to be beat up on by bullies and end up at the local spelling-bee.
     
  16. Lee

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    You know it seems everyones kids get straight A's and never stay out past midnight on a weekend and 9pm on a school night never get in trouble an blah blah

    Public school education is excellent unless your child needs special help and then it is up to the teacher to make sure the marginal students get the help they need which does not happen as well in the public school system as it does in private schools or home schooled.

    My kids have been both in private schools and public and both can be wonderful. But the private schooling and home schooling definitely helps kids that need special attention better then public schools. I am not saying public schools are a terrible place just the opposite but they do have some limits for the marginal children that do not accelerate or not at the bottom.

    I am not going to comment anymore on the children in this thread as this thread is more about the physical schools themselves, not the kids. SO start a new thread if you want to talk about the merits of the different kinds of education.

    Lee j
     
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    Do you know this from experience Lee? Because I can tell you from experience you are off the mark. The school system here is especially good for special needs children. My public school as a child barely had a guidance councelor and a nurse - LC schools have more specialists (therapists, psychologists, specialists, etc) then I think we even had TEACHERS in the schools I went to. Meeting with the school usually involves meeting with at least 3-4 specialists working with your child directly, in addition to the child's teacherS and administrators.

    I think you and others are working off generalizations rather then direct experience. LC Schools are a solid reason many people choose to live here.
     
  18. Lee

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    Do you know this from experience Lee? Because I can tell you from experience you are off the mark. The school system here is especially good for special needs children. My public school as a child barely had a guidance councelor and a nurse - LC schools have more specialists (therapists, psychologists, specialists, etc) then I think we even had TEACHERS in the schools I went to. Meeting with the school usually involves meeting with at least 3-4 specialists working with your child directly, in addition to the child's teacherS and administrators.

    I think you and others are working off generalizations rather then direct experience. LC Schools are a solid reason many people choose to live here. __________________
    -Steve

    I thought I would answer it here. No I am not talking about special needs children I have heard the schools do extremely well with those beautiful kids.

    I am talking about kids like I was in school. Not on the radar. Never was popular or great at sports or school work. Shy kids. The kids that just seem lost, but never in any real trouble but are just there. Maybe I am wrong but it seems not just Loudoun Schools but most public schools at least to me in my limited experience don't do as good as job getting these kids to find themselves as private schools or home schooling. Public schools do real well for the upper quarter and perhaps the lower quarter and the very special and beautiful children but not that silent middle.

    Lee j
     
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    Answered in new thread to get this one back on track.

    I also had two kids in Loudoun schools for a short period of time.

    Lee j
     
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