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Citizens for the Broadlands Regional Medical Cente

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by vweisenburg, Aug 4, 2003.

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  1. chris

    chris New Member

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    I am glad that anti-hospital candidates won out, and I can see the argument that they are a good proxy for the feelings of this district. For example, I supported Snow SOLELY because he vehemently opposed HCA's plans to build a hospital on top of the Broadlands.

    However, I am truly shocked to see how many pro-sprawl candidates won in the election. With all the new houses that the Republican Party wants to build in Loudoun, I am afraid that Broadlands property values will not go up nearly as much as they have over the past several years. That is due to the wild number of houses that the GOP wants to let the builders put up PLUS the fact that traffic will just get worse with the influx of new residents.
     
  2. GCyr

    GCyr New Member

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    Sounds like a darn good reason and justification for a new hospital...

     
  3. Homer Simpson

    Homer Simpson New Member

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    I wouldn't be too worried about propert values. Vienna and Oakton are doing just fine in that area and look how big Fairfax is. There is a proposed metro station right next to Broadlands in 20XX. We're getting a Clydes. As long as we deal with the traffic situation then Ashburn could be the next Vienna.
     
  4. Homer Simpson

    Homer Simpson New Member

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    I'd like to see the issue put to bed and the best way to do it is to poll the homeowners. I may disagree with some of the things the HOA does but overall I think our HOA is one of the better ones and I trust that they will not tinker with the vote. The vote is not binding in any way and there would be little to gain in fixing it and much to lose if they fixed it and it came out.


    Also, You and I may disagree with Vacliff on some issues but I think he's shown himself to be an honorable representative. Yes, He is pro hospital but he is open to the discussion of facts and has kept his emotions out of it. I believe he will do the right thing with this vote.
     
  5. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    Where is the poll you had on your site?
    I thought is had some very interesting results.
     
  6. vweisenburg

    vweisenburg New Member

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    It will be back. I have been too busy lately to finish the site redesign.
     
  7. vweisenburg

    vweisenburg New Member

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    Chris,

    The Slow-Growth policies that had been put in place by the previous board did nothing to address the number of houses to be built in Eastern Loudoun. In fact their comprehensive plan packed the majority of development in a few clusters in Eastern Loudoun while all but eliminating any development in western loudoun. How would that be beneficial to us? What the new board is committed to is spreading the developement across all of the county. Maybe then western loudoun will grow their population enough to warrant the hospital they have been whining about.
     
  8. chris

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    KillerBee and Homer, I would like to say that I personally trust VACLIFF to do the right thing with the poll. However, I think that an outside group should conduct the poll if the HOA is intent on doing one still (the election results really made the poll un-necessary). If the HOA does the poll itself, it looks improper and biased even if it is not. Sometimes the appearance of impropriety is worse than the impropriety itself.
     
  9. Homer Simpson

    Homer Simpson New Member

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    What if the HOA kept the results and let homeowners do an Independant Verification and Validation (IVV). My company does this all the time w/ software. The poll is going to be paper based and sent back so it should be doable.
     
  10. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    Forget the poll. Let's just not do the hospital here. It will change the neighborhood.

    I truly do not think or worry about house values with this dumb hospital idea. It is a matter of
    community atmosphere. A hospital will really turn this place into a busy area,
    day and night. Any intimate community activities we have such as festivals or "Leaf Jumping"
    will encourage people from outside this neighborhood that really dont care about our neighborhood,
    to hang around. I honestly do feel it will make this neighborhood very crowded with people that do not live here.
    They wont care about the appearance, they wont care to follow our rules, they wont clean up after their pets.
    (man, am I sick of dogs pooping in my yard already!)
    You think traffic is crazy now.

    I love Broadlands (so many wonderful neighbors, so clean and pretty with the trees), however, in a way, I am looking forward to selling and moving once the auxilliary child graduates from high school.
     
  11. tyger31

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    SK8R - I totally agree with you with what you said about the hospital.....traffic will be nuts....they are so trying to turn our area into another Fairfax County. Our child is finished with high school and my husband and I have thought about moving further out, however, we both are spoiled by living and working in Ashburn!! As it is - Waxpool Road is a nightmare in the a.m. with the backups! Oh well! Wait until those two new hotels open up just past Loudoun County Parkway....also the new Wegmans! What a nightmare that will be and oh, let's not forget about the golf course that will be opening in the future! YIKES! Does anyone ever think about WHERE the traffic will go???? [xx(]
     
  12. Just the Facts

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    Look this hospital is a bad idea and the reasons why go on and on but here are a few.....

    1. 40+ CRIMNALY insane beds (not a good a idea for children let alone adults)

    2. Greedly placed in broadlands to have accessiblity to the Greenway and future metro.
    3. So close to Loudoun Hospital it would create medical price wars and futrue problems.
    4. Western Loudoun needs it more than we do.
    5. It's been declined by the state ( more than enough reason for me).
    6. Who wants sirens buzzing around at 2:00 at night? Or a helocopter flying over ( and yes i have confirmed there will be a helicopter pad)
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    7. ( my concern)I would have had serious doubt of moving here if i would have known before hand of this hospital.

    Thank you[8D]



    JTF
     
  13. Stephanie

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    JTF, don't forget about:

    8. Abortion services at HCA hospitals - who wants to raise a family around the corner from that?!?

    Now that there is a liquor store and a bar (Clydes is coming), it looks like the Broadlands now just needs an abortion provider, a brothel, and a "gay" bookstore in order to become the #1 "Family Friendly" place to live! Hooray!
     
  14. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Wow-
    We're retreading completely FALSE statements about the hospital again.....
    THERE ARE NONE, ZERO, NADA,ZILCHO beds for criminally insane. This has been discussed and demonstrated AS FALSE.
    You display your ignorance of the subject with these false inflamatory comments.

    That stretch of Broadlands Blvd. is designed to accomodate four MILLION square feet of commercial development. It's coming whether you like it or not, and has always been planned for it. And there's millions of square feet of additional commercial/retail space throughout the rest of Broadlands. Sorry folks, but you live in urban suburbia whether you knew about it or not.

    Regarding the poll. We originally promised to conduct one primarily at the request of those that oppose the hospital. I get the sense now that you folks don't want one, and won't believe the results anyway if they are in favor of it. I would be happy to cancel the plans for one and save the few thousand dollars in cost.
    Cliff
     
  15. chris

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    Stephanie,

    I am not opposed to hospital out of any sense of morality, and I doubt that most of us are. We just don't need another hospital when there is already one 5 minutes away. While I realize that ring-wing, fundamentalist Rush Limbaugh lovers like you are a majority in Lo. Co. (unfortunately, the election results proved that), could we please reign in the rhetoric a tad? Regardless, a visit to an ABC store, a bar, or a gay bookstore probably would do you some good.
     
  16. Homer Simpson

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    Stephanie,

    You're coming off a wee bit hysterical and you're giving the anti-hospital folks a bad image. You are way out of line with that remark. If you don't want to be near gays or alcohol there is a nice church run state called Utah waiting.
     
  17. Dang.Yu.Hyung

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    va cliff: I think there is no need to take poll about hospital. State say that it cannot be built many times! However, can we do a poll about need for light at Claiborne/Broadlands? That is really important issue!!!
     
  18. T8erman

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    Stephanie, you frighten me! Tolerance is a wonderful and necessary thing to have to make a community work. Your mega, super, ultra right wing views would be best served in a convent!
     
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    The moderators have decided to close this thread because it has started getting out of hand and began heading in a direction that was contrary with an open discussion of the issue at hand. Personal attacks on other users, as well as postings which are far from related with the original 'theme' of the discussion have forced us to make this decision.

    Thank you for your understanding.

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