Bd. of Supervisors Debate - Oct 3 -Broad Run and Dulles

Barbara - I am glad we can both agree that today is Sunday and certainly NOT a regular government work day.

Question for you Sept 24-Sept 28 out of 153 comments you posted 58 times during CORE government working hours, were you on vacation last week?

http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/blogs/living-loco/2007/sep/24/new-pac-goes-attack/

What was your point of my post concerning the Broadlands ARB Comm?
Will a PAC have to FOIA you and Snow to get the real answers if county resources have been used for political activity on the tax payers dime?

You have rarely answer any direct question posed to you as a government employee or just a plain old citizen (and in your own words)

Back at you Barbara - considering you stunt of the TC link, if you are NOT the Shadow what's all the fuss? What you are really trying to do is discredit me, however my post #11 is a direct result of the ongoing personal insults of me, my husband and my religious faith. However (once again) you have omitted those post of the Shadow.

..NO SALE and you've earned a well deserved place on my ignore list and good riddance.

 

Your darn right it was - as a resident of Broadlands and fed up with the liberties Ms. Munsey takes while rendering directions of how or when the admins (such as yourself) should move/manage post or threads.
I used the word adept - which is defined as:
"thoroughly proficient expert"
...and you went into FULL on antagonistic mode with me...NICE

What do you mean by this statement?

Is this your opinion - if so everyone has one and they...well you can finish that thought

 

Erika, as a county appointee, the only time I am "on dime" is at scheduled and publically advertised meetings. The former chair of the commission once calculated that it averaged out to about $.18 per hour, so you are close to the mark there.

One correction I missed, I was appointed in 2006, not 2003.

 

Thank you for answering my question, Mr. Linux.

Here is another, for the conspiracy theory file:

If I were trying to cover up negative discussion of Steve, why on earth would I link to a site that has made a career out of attacking him?

 

LOL

No, I don't think so. That site has been desperately searching for a broader audience as the election approaches, and has launched a "new" site with the same material.

I am currently double-Satan for engaging them at the Washington Post, as Erika noted, and now it has come back here.

Erika's insertion of the "Shadow" accusations here has simply closed the circle again, that for whatever reason you (the admins) chose to break when you sequestered the political forums.

I see a zero sum game in engaging there, so I do not. They don't seem to like that!

I'm apparently supposed to show up and play (a la "The Warriors" and the psycho with the pony beer bottles: "Bar-bar-aaaaaa! Come out and PLA-AY!!!").

 

At least that's something. Glad both Steve and Mr. Snow will attend.
Now, a few things to point out, The Easterner says the public can submit questions in advance and they'll decide what to ask. Suzanne Volpe, the LCRC vice chair and Mick Staton's planning commissioner, covers the Cascades for the Easterner. The Easterner ran a front page article with the Republican supervisors pictures full across the top this week (nice to be an incumbent) with quotes from each.
Jim Clem says this about the LWV forums:

Clem, a veteran Loudoun politician who has participated in many debates over the years, said the league ones have been among the best.
"It's the most respected, and a lot of people put a lot of credibility into the League of Women Voters," he said. "They've always run a fair and balanced program."
​

Now, why would Mr. Snow choose to go to the Easterner's debate and not the LWV forum when they are both not holding one for the statewide races? Instead, only my neighbor Steve will be at both. Mr. Snow, I bet it's not too late to change your mind.

P.S. It's kind of confusing how they're both named Steve. Probably why Steve uses his full first name Stevens in all his campaigning. Maybe we should stick to always using last names?

 

Actually, it was not my intent to criticize.

I thought it was a wise decision, as the thread that seemed to prompt it (in my opinion) smacked of manipulation of a valuable resource..

Hence my question on whether this had become a political thread instead of an informational one.

You're welcome.

 

I call it exactly how I see it Barbara. Always have always will. Which three debates are you referring to, and which one is still scheduled?

 

I'd argue we're getting ripped off. The quality of the work is not worth $.18

 

Mr. Linux,

You are a gem! Thank you for the chuckle.

 

Folks,

We've seen this act before. Once again Barbara is diverting the discussion to some esoteric rhetoric to throw fog on the real issue.

Steve Snow is a chicken. It is a disservice to his constituents not to debate in our backyard. It is ridiculous to think a debate, for the Dulles District, held in Sterling is a valid substitute. (see also Joy's illuminating post!)

I would think Dulles South would be outraged. It's hard enough for Dulles North to get out to Sterling, much less someone coming from the Route 50 area.

 

GM, Both attended the Chamber of Commerce, and only Steve Snow attended NVBIA and Dulles South Business Alliance.

NVBIA I can see both sides of Mr. Miller's possible reasons for absence. On one hand, that is the building industry. However, on the other, a lot of businesses are lumped together in that category, some owned (and paying two sets of taxes) by Loudoun residents. In addition, the big developers are our ONLY road builders up here, since VDOT does such a great job, so if transportation is THE major issue, they will need to be dealt with.

I can see the DSBA event being considered too local, but again those are business paying taxes owned by Loudoun residents.

I see you read further to find out about the Easterner event.

 

GM, we will probably never agree, so I don't choose to recycle the whole thing with you right now. We have a long meeting tonight, and as Mr. Linux pointed out we can take it offline (since we are both guests).

I'll check back in when I get home (I hope before midnight!).

 

Barbara,

Steve Snow is being disingenuous if he thinks the public has or will have plenty of chances to see a Snow v Miller debate. Let me review your defense of his debate "history".

• NVBIA. What debate? I am pretty clued in and I never heard about this. Google shows nothing on it, no reference, no press releases, no follow-up news stories. I can't even find when it was or where it was, or if it was a debate or a forum. Even the NVBIA website has no reference to this occurring. No wonder Miller didn't attend, he probably didn't know about it. If anything it was probably a closed internal meeting. Regardless, if it happened, where is the review or content of it for public review. What did Steve Snow say, did he initiate any new ideas, what was his main theme? I see no way for a constituent to review this so called "debate" to assist them with their vote, there's no information available.
• Dulles South Business Alliance. I knew about this one, in fact, I attended. None of the democrats attended. As some know, the DSBA is run by Steve Snow's largest contributor Bill Dean. This is the same Bill Dean who owns OpenBand. The same Openband who is in cahoots with Van Metre. The moderator for the event was Latoya Foster. Ms. Foster has provided campaign services to Steve Snow with her appearances on his SnowTV productions. I've provided my review on this previously and stand by everything I wrote. Including Steve Snow's self described resume that omitted his current employer Dietz Construction. I asked him about this omission and he said it was an oversight. Regardless, the point is it was a non-event, and it was held during the middle of a business day. Again, very little information was produced out of this for a constituent to review. Information that could be used to compare Snow and Miller for an informed vote.
• Loudoun Chamber of Commerce. This was a huge success. Over twenty candidates showed up. I was also at this event. I wouldn't call it a debate, it was more of a forum. If anything it was like a pre-cursor to a real debate. Sorta like watching the first quarter of a football game. I would guess each candidate ended up speaking for between eight and ten minutes. There was some news coverage of this. Not enough to make any conclusions on. Certainly enough to spawn questions for a real debate. A debate Steve Snow has now decided to cancel on us.
• Loudoun Easterners - Oct 13 - Candidates forum. http://www.easterner.com/articles/2007/09/21/news/news06.txt According to this announcement dated Oct 1, 12 candidates have confirmed. The event is scheduled from 7:00 to 9:30PM, a total of 150 minutes. Giving no time for introductions, no break, no interruptions, no question reading time, that gives us 12.5 minutes of Mr. Snow "debating". Not what I call impressive. Additionally this is being held in Sterling. I would be pissed off if I lived in South Riding and wanted to attend this event. An event that is NOW the only non-business hour event open to the public. Even at that is someone from SR going to travel across county to see Snow speak for 12.5 minutes.

Conclusion, the constituents of the Loudoun County Dulles district are being disrespected by Steve Snow's inability to provide us with an opportunity to see Stevens Miller and Steve Snow together in a lively debate. Good decisions are made through comparison. A debate is an excellent venue to consider that comparison. Steve Snow doesn't want the Dulles district to see how he looks side by side with Miller.

I've been holding out for a reason to support Steve Snow, but this really breaks the camels back. For a military man, and one that fights for his views and beliefs, I can't fathom why he is doing this to the people he represents. I am surprised he's running from the fight. What a chicken.

I can't believe he thinks it's a good idea to pull out of the only viable debate for the Dulles District. He shows no honor by calling this some type of unity thing with the party. Give me a break the Loudoun County Republican Party hasn't shown any unity for years. I think he's scared of what Stevens Miller or others would ask him. He's running away from his four year record, not running for four more.