Broadlands Hospital

http://www.broadlandsrmc.com/

This is the official BRMC website with one part of the huge medical complex in a small rendering.

THe somewhat misleading site plan and the full 3d rendering I found in the newspapers. All these other mysterious renderings Cliff talks about are missing or are not published perhaps because they would be controversial with the public and the directly affected residents as to what they are really getting certainly by what is on the published site plan the tall massive buildings shown on the partial rendering on the BRMC website are certainly not in the far back of the site. Cliff now you want to charge me a thousand dollars to see the entire colored 3d renderings of the entire complex.

Here is One Loudouns website and see how proud this good neighbor developer is in showing in 3d and beautiful color many renderings of the entire complex and close ups. Further notice how their site plan has every building color coded for easy identification including the parking garages. Notice how they include the offsite main roads in the renderings so the average person can truly grasp the big picture of what they are doing no smoke and mirrors here. http://www.oneloudoun.com/

Big difference, and why is HCA not posting all their renderings on their web site if they feel proud of them??????? What do they do not want the public to see. Good neighbor developer One Loudoun is certainly proud of theirs for all the public to see and are not charging one thousands dollars to see them either.

 

Lee, could you please repeat all of this again for the 400th time? I didn't quite understand your position the first 399 times you reiterated (and often contradicted) your own points. And while you're at it, how about some more conspiracy theories?

 

The renderings I refer to were part of the public meeting process last time around. They were brought out at SEVERAL meetings I attended.
They showed the hospital, both medical office buildings, and the parking garage.
Probably to defend against whack jobs accusing them of hiding things.

I imagine they will produce them again. If not, I might have to agree with you on this!

 

Cliff you know how odd that is not showing renderings especially since they can the show the public the true scope of the project if done well and end a lot of controversy or................. I have been designing and drawing renderings since I was 15 years old and have never seen not having renderings shown in a big way unless on a rare occasion it showed the project in a bad light to the public. I worked for a Architecture firm for several years and later a artist that specialized in models and drawings renderings for the big architecture firms. The models and renderings were always the pride of the firm as they show when well done how beautiful and in a way the public can understand. Few people can understand the complexity of construction documents and visualize how they will look in real life, that is why renderings and models are drawn and shown very publicly. Look at One Loudouns site I posted above full of renderings as they are the pride of the project and brings reality to the project.

I make such a deal out of the BRMC because it is a very high profile land use change. DOes not matter what the land is currently zoned because there is nothing on the table for the current zoning that is real until actual buildings are designed and proposed like the hospital has done any discussion about what might be is fear mongering in order to support the hospital. So current zoning is a non issue for how this hospital will look and be sited as they want a land use change. Can't talk about ghost projects that don't exist on the current zoning because until they are drawn and proposed as how they want to build them they are not reality.

Very odd indeed that these renderings are not displayed all over the place because they would support what is said about the tall massive buildings on the rear of the property. My guess is they do not show that and in fact if the site plan is correct that is posted above they will show the parking garages and medical building 2 closer to Broadlands BLV then many think as well as the center piece of the main hospital shown in a partial small rendering on the brmc site as closer then some as saying and certainly not on back of the site.

As cliff as seen in my home office and studio I have renderings proudly displayed on easels as large as 4 feet by 3 feet tall displayed in great detail and vibrant color.

When I meet a client first thing I show them is my portfolio and renderings and models. Then we tour my buildings in real life and meet the actual people that live or work in them and well as the people that build them.

Well this could be a win win if this double hospital care for the few instead of hospital care for the many must be built then do it as a win win and call it the "Hospital In The Park" By extending the park all the way to belmont instead of the narrow buffer and move the massive tall buildings to the back of the site as many people believe they are, by what has been said. move the emergency entrance more to the side on Belmont and closer to the actual belmont entrance put the parking garages under medical buildings one and two and you will plenty of land to do so and land left over. A win win for everyone.

This win win all came to me from my many trips on the mother ship. Plenty of time time to think and plan and dream on those very long trips. the hospital designers might want to try it so they too can come up with a win win for the neighboring residents and the public in general and be able to show those renderings not be ashamed of them like they are hiding some thing which I believe they do. Very very odd.

 

One thing that also needs to be considered is that One Loudoun is residential, retail, restaurant, office space, etc. development that needs to be sold or rented. Any retail commercial development will provide detailed site plans and drawings to draw prospective buyers. To show them the available spaces and buildings and their locations in the complex.

 

OK do you really want me to post a ton of links to proposed hospitals and expansions around the world that show detailed site plans and many renderings of their individual projects. I certainly can.

I will leave it up to Mr Linux, although I believe he would rather I take an extended trip on the mother ship to a place with no internet and no return to earth. Instead of continuing this hospital discussion .

 

Post all you want, Lee.

I was just making a comment on why One Loudoun's site plans, renderings, etc... are very detailed.

 

Lee, are you sure HCA isn't paying you to act like an obsessed, irrational INOVA supporter? Because you have done more to sway me in the direction of pro-hospital than you can imagine Keep up the good work!

 

LMAO!!! so true- the one time i found myself with Jesse Jackson on an issue- i went to the other side IMMEDIATELY!!! turned out Jesse was wrong yet again... whew. but it was a close one.

 

Lee-
I do agree with you on something here...there should be full, detailed renderings of the BRMC proposal.
Hopefully they will bring out the ones used last time around, or create new, better ones.

 

Like I've said all along, there are much better locs for the HCA hospital-- I don't think most people are anti-HCA (even given their past), just anti-location. How about across from VzB/MCI...

 

I know there is no helicopter pad this go around, but they have enough land reserved in the back of this hospital which I believe was done on purpose so they can come back for approval if and when this first approval is approved. Of course we were told or at least we assumed the tall massive buildings were back there as some have said.

http://www.wzzm13.com/

Video of a major helicopter crash into a hospital today.

 

Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed........................

 

You do know there's a major international airport just a few miles from broadlands....

 

And a minor one to the west. Are you talking about the posiblility of a crash? Noise? Looking for clarification.

 

Lee,

Would you mind giving us Dalyn's cell phone number?

 

No problem, just press 2 and then press send on your cell phone.

 

Not if you're designing a hospital....

It's only a better location if you don't want it in your backyard. Believe me, HCA did their homework. They knew where they wanted to put the hospital and why before they invested the millions to go through the process of the CON and the planning board.