Broadlands Hospital

Lee,
So what would be an ideal design for the hospital? Given that its slated to be next to the gorgeous Public School administration building, I would think that even flex space commercial would fit in

I personally welcome another healthcare facility in this area. It would be a nice break from the standard commercial blocks of chinese, nails, and supermarkets.

 

I have seen the proposed site layout. Anyone can view it by going to the BRMC offices above the Quizno's. Large buffer with around 800' between the hospital building and the nearest home. This buffer is much better than what would be required of a by-right office building development. If its developed by-right, they would not have to negotiate with anyone.

You haven't presented anything to backup your statement that BRMC would lower property values as you claim. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

Skins fan

 

Don't forget the gang-banger criminals on weekends!

 

skinsfan did they also tell you they have land reserved for potential expansion that at first will look like part of an buffer??

I think I will take a drive over there today and see for my self

maybe you are seeing only what you want to or they want you too. I am just trying to get to the bottom line on all this

Lee j

btw techno and flynnibusThe mental people were some else's argument. I gave a link about one criminal point of view and you all make and spin it into like I said they were building a prison on that site hahahaha jeezz give me a break you pro hospital can also spin everything into happy happy joy joy about this hospital.
listening to some of you would think this hospital is like the second coming or something. Remember how everyone complained there were too few restaurants and now many complain there is too many and they don't have hardly any business. what a group. All I have done is bring up for discussion a few things and you all want to turn it into a war zone

 

Depends on what their final plan is. If they build the hospital with the previously shown two medical office buildings, there is no more room for expansion. But let's take Lee's position. The area that would be expanded into is right along Belmont Ridge, farther away from the existing homes.

 

Here's a nice story about what kind of company HCA is:


A Surgeon Caught Up in the Flooding Tells of a Week of Chaos, Peril and Heroism
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.

As Hurricane Katrina wailed out of the Gulf of Mexico, Dr. Norman E. McSwain Jr., chief of trauma surgery at the New Orleans hospital known as Big Charity, relished watching what he called "water blowing sideways in big slats, like Venetian blinds," from inside his office at the adjacent Tulane University School of Medicine.
After the storm had passed, he had time to drive over to his house on Bourbon Street and was glad to find it intact. The emergency room at Charity, a huge hospital founded for the poor in 1736, was quiet. Young surgeons joked that they would soon be busy sewing up people who had bought chain saws to clear their yards.
But within days, Dr. McSwain would become one of the hurricane's reluctant celebrities. As Charity Hospital withered around him - low on electricity, water and oxygen; its food supplies down to canned fruit cocktail; surrounded by thugs firing at rescue boats - he finally despaired of official channels and cried out to the news media: "We have been trying to call the mayor's office. We have been trying to call the governor's office. We are turning to you. Please help us."
The 68-year-old surgeon's last nights at his post would be spent sleeping in a red garbage bag, of the kind normally used to hold infectious waste, on the roof of Tulane University Hospital's parking garage, his head cradled on a pile of diapers, hiding with his staff from marauders below as security guards and a lone Marine sniper stood sentry.
What Dr. McSwain described, in telephone interviews from Nashville, where he was helping set up a center for evacuees from New Orleans, was a slow descent into chaos. The more desperate the situation became, he said, the harder it was to reach anyone in authority.
Despite the historical threat of flooding in New Orleans, he said, there was never a plan to evacuate Charity, the nation's oldest continuously operated hospital.
Nor at first did he expect one.
"Medical people don't evacuate," he said. "They stay and take care of people who weren't smart enough to leave."
In addition, he said, minor flooding in New Orleans is common.
"I've waded through waist-deep water several times," he said. "It's no big deal. The pumps take it out. People who live in low-lying areas have to put new carpet down every few years, but they get used to it."
By Tuesday of last week, however, even with the floodwaters eight feet deep, the hospital's generators running out of diesel and shots ringing out in darkened streets, it became clear that no plan was being formed.
"Nobody was in charge," he said. "I guarantee you that. I'd call the governor's office, and either they didn't answer the telephone or I'd talk to lower functionaries, and they'd say: 'The governor's too busy to talk. We'll relay the message.' "
Making matters worse, he said, someone from the state health department announced that Charity had already been emptied, when in fact 250 patients and 1,000 staff members were inside.
He was finally able to appeal to HCA, the company that runs Tulane University Hospital, across the street. HCA had hired 20 medical evacuation helicopters, which were landing on the Tulane hospital's parking garage.
"They said, 'We're not going to leave you down there,' " Dr. McSwain said of company executives. "I have nothing but praise for them."
For the next three days, beginning with the 12th-floor intensive care unit, the staff carried Charity patients down the stairs to flat-bottomed boats steered by state fish and wildlife agents. The boats were met at the Tulane garage, 150 yards away, by a truck, running on gas siphoned from parked cars, that took the patients to the garage's seventh-floor roof to be picked up by the helicopters.
"One cardiac patient was on a pump that weighed 500 pounds and had two feet of tubing," Dr. McSwain said. "We had to carry him down five flights without separating them by two feet. In the dark."
But at one point Tulane University Hospital ran out of oxygen, he said, so Charity was told not to send additional patients there until more of it could be flown in. Oily water sloshed along corridors. Confused patients languished in hallways.
The danger kept increasing, he said. A fish and wildlife sergeant stopped the boat-to-truck shuttle, calling back boats with babies aboard, after one of his men had been shot by a would-be hijacker. At a hotel across the street filled with refugees, "drug lords took command and made people buy their way in and out," Dr. McSwain said, adding that "one of our personnel who had family there was shot at twice."
Phones stopped working. The only news from outside came from battery-powered radios. A staff member whose BlackBerry still had a signal sent out appeals for the National Guard.
On Wednesday night, two days after the hurricane swept ashore, "a helicopter came in, and this lone guy dropped out with an M-16 and said he was a Marine sniper and he'd been sent to protect Charity," Dr. McSwain recalled.
"It was really comforting to have a guy like that who was trained and had been in Iraq three times and would shoot somebody if he had to," the doctor said. "It made us feel good."
The marine stayed on Charity's roof for 12 hours, then moved to the Tulane garage parapet as the hospitals emptied and the staff retreated to the top two floors of the parking structure, barricading its stairs and ramps against looters roaming the five lower floors. Neither the marine nor the 38 hospital guards keeping watch in shifts shot anyone, "as far as I know," Dr. McSwain said.
By Thursday morning, he said, he had reached a friend with press contacts who got him in touch with reporters for The Associated Press and USA Today, to whom he made his plea for help.
The next day, with some of Charity's staff and patients remaining, he got on the last helicopter carrying out members of Tulane's staff, having decided that he could do more good by raising the alarm on the outside. By that evening, the military was rolling through the streets, and the last of the patients were out.

 

2008 Broadlands Hospital

OK, I am going to start from square one.

Fact ---- I am undecided about the Broadlands Hospital

I just returned from the broadlands community relations office over in the broadlands and talked very briefly to the lovely Megan Descutner well I think that was her as she gave me her card.

I saw a very simple site plan on the wall that was not near as detailed as Cliff's.

I asked Megan for a meeting so we could talk about this proposed hospital and would like a meeting soon and told her I could even meet tomorrow

She said she would get back with me and asked here if I could bring some people to the meeting and she said yes but she wanted to know who, which is fine with me and she said she wanted to have others there too which is also fine. And it was left that she would get back me about setting up a meeting. excellent!!!

I want Megan to know and everyone one else here I am absolutely undecided about this hospital. And don't bring anything else into this thread from any other thread.

This thread should be about facts only that can be verified and substantiated from this day on.

So at this moment on Jan 14 2008 (3:42 pm) I am undecided about this hospital.

Lee j

 

Re: 2008 Broadlands Hospital

I am undecided as well.

 

AFGM, I was thinking the lansdowne campus, but if you want to see another facility, let me know...

 

Re: 2008 Broadlands Hospital

Good job Lee.

 

Re: 2008 Broadlands Hospital

So let me get this straight--for months you've led a semi-violent protest on these boards about the hospital, and now after "very briefly" speaking with this lovely lady you're undecided? That's impressive!

I don't suppose she plyed you with favorable political or economic news? Perhaps a positive outlook on the housing market? Sure would be great if she had the same impact on you regarding those issues!

 

Re: 2008 Broadlands Hospital

Sounds like Lee has been sucked into the conspiracy!!!! (Sorry, I couldn't resist!!!)

 

Sunshine prevents conspiracies.

 

Here is an thought to ponder for all of you that want this medical care from this hospital when do you think it will even open it's doors???? will any of you still be living here?????

It takes about 2 and 1/2 to 3 years to build if all goes well. The hospital said this not me. We may be looking at another year or two to go through the approval process of BOS approval, finalizing the plans and drawing the construction documents then going through plan review and that's if it even gets approval. through all these agencies and boards.

You realize this hospital may not even open it's doors until until 2013 five years from now.

Will any of you even be around then????

Cliff brags we need jobs here well we certainly could have a lot more jobs from other industries in that time frame. I would say this hospital might be meaningless for many of us here and certainly is not goping to be any boon to the job market even if it really will be for many many years down the road. hmmmmm

Lee j

Lee j

 

Fair enough, but does that mean that we/you/us shouldn't build for the future or plan ahead?

 

And mr Baywatch I still am undecided

Yes we should plan for the future, I am just throwing a few thoughts out there as usual right or wrong

Lee j

 

And how many more years after supposed 2013 will it be before another hospital will be built if THIS ONE is not? You ever think about that?

 

Lee,

With that timeline, we would already be enjoying the BRMC; if rational minds had been leading this County back in 2001.

Oh and by the way, Belmont Ridge Road would already be four lanes from the Greenway to Briar Wood H.S. Parents of driving Falcons should be really upset about what transpired over the last several years. Some might say Inova greed kept that road from being widened.

Let's not make the same mistakes again this go around.