Broadlands Victory Party

ok, just in case I missed it, has anyone actually said anything recently? I mean other than "the other guy is a lowdown <insert noun>; and we shoulda won"

 

AFGM, I try not to respond to your incesent rantings but you really need to get over this and get your facts straight. First of all I was not the Front person for Loudoun. I fought this fight as a HOMEOWNER for 3 years. Secondly, this party is a thank you to those residents who helped keep HCA out of our community. I think the only people who aren't responding to the invite are those that never received an invite in the first place. Why don't you take all your hostility and direct it in a constructive manner and help us get the YMCA to build here. It's interesting that you are such a big talker on this forum but when it comes to my invitation to meet personally you make excuses. Wasn't it Ghandi that said "anger and intolerance are the twin enemies of correct understanding"...

 

Anger and intolerance? Throughout this whole hospital soap opera (which, sorry, but it hasn't ended), the anti-hospital people have been spewing the most anger and intolerance trying to fight HCA. "HCA is a corrupt corporation," "they're a bunch of bullies," "HCA just wants to drive LHC out of business." Please.

 

Gosh Wick, was it my imagination or was HCA found guilty and fined the largest civil and criminal fines ever for defrauding our government...you know, stealing from Medicare, a section of the healthcare industry that provides care for the limited income elderly...if that isn't a corrupt corporation, then what is your definition of corruption?

 

LI(e)Nova

 

OK ... is this topic serving any useful purpose other than a place for both sides to rant and rave about the other?



Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

LET EM RANT! It provides alot of us with humor thoughout the day.

 

Donna,

Ghandi also said, "The moment there is suspicion about a person's motives, everything he (she) does becomes tainted."

 

Donna, simple question:

Who funded the "impact zone" shirts you handed out?

 

Well, golly Donna, how is that anywhere near a valid reason that HCA will clearly be bad for Broadlands? I fail to see a concrete connection. But, please, clearly and factually demonstrate the connection between a corporate misconduct incident that occurred in the past to impact of HCA on the Broadlands. I will be happy to listen to how HCA's isolated corporate misconduct in the past will certainly affect the Broadlands. Without this connection, in my opinion, you are just speculating without facts by spewing anger and intolerance.

If corporate misconduct is a reason to prohibit HCA from building a hospital in the Broadlands, then we need to kick out MCI, Giant (Royal Ahold), and all Exxon gas stations in Ashburn. Do you buy pharmaceuticals made by TAP, Abbott, SmithKline, Pfizer, Astrazeneca? All of those corporations have been fined in the past for corporate misconduct. Are you picketing Safeway to stop selling drugs made by those companies? Let's get real. Corporate misconduct exists all over and yet we still send cash to those corporations.

 

I realize that this has nothing whatsoever to do with a private party in another community NOT being funded by any HOA dues, but when the thread became an HIV discussion topic I have wanted to note that in this day and age, EVERYTHING health-connected is an HIV issue, because all bodily fluids are now biohazards. A friend who is a nurse was restraining a patient in the ER (a DC hospital) and had blood vomited all over her, and was tested because that's the way it is now.

I can see having anyone involved in the issue raised by AFGM tested for HIV etc because any testing equipment for any invasive procedure is going to be a potential instrument of transfer. The only publicized AIDS transfer I recall at the moment was that poor teenage girl in Florida years ago who got it from her dentist--a real nut who treated his own mouth lesions and used the same instruments on his patients without sterilizing them at all.

I realize AFGM is hell-bent on beating his drum however he can, but AFGM I've got to tell you your relish over the possibility of AIDS in the issue is really kind of gross--almost as if you hope it could happen so you can say "See?!!!", in which case you would cross the line from health advocate into sick man.

Hence my "diversionary" posts--It took me a couple of days to say that to you calmly.

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Barb,

The science of infection, which appears to be another expertise of yours, has nothing to do with the issue. I could consider your foray as an infectiologists, as another diversion. Does hepatitis fall into your same category as HIV?

The issue is, regardless of the level of threat, it was covered up by Linova, until after the vote. I'll even overlook their poor procedures for protecting patients. Politics took over care. Sound familiar?

If you would address that issue you would be in the "court".

 

Actually Barbara...AFGM didn't make that connection or dream that up. That is what the press reported. It's different when a patient vomits on a nurse as opposed to a hospital not sterilizing their equipment properly.

Once again you've tried to divert.

 

Sox, you wouldn't be putting words in my mouth, would you? I didn't say he dreamed it up, I said he seemed to be displaying an unhealthy relish in it.

AFGM, you are preposterous. No, I'm not an epidemiologist, and yes I'm aware that Hep was on the test list too. As far as being in the court, here's your bone: I doubt it was a coverup. I think it was precisely as they stated: covering patient privacy. That is one of the main issues that received any coverage on this story beyond the bare announcement of it. Some group that promotes colonoscopy screenings was worried that it might deter people from getting tested, and went on the news to say there is virtually zero risk of getting sick from this, and don't let it put you off.

Privacy re HIV/AIDS is quite intense: activists have pretty thoroughly protected the issue of personal privacy vs. communicable disease with a 100% mortality rate.

I repeat: this is a party thread hijacked by AFGM into a "hospital not only gives AIDS but covers it up" thread. I also repeat: part of me gets squeamish at the thought that there are folks so gung ho on the HCA issue that part of them would kind of like for it to be true. I repeat: sick.

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Well I just hope somewhere in loudoun county another hospital comes up because if I ever get sick there is NO way I would go to loudoun county hospital. That place needs the competition because it sucks. One of our friends recently had a baby there and their experience was mixed. I would choose to have my baby at INOVA in fairfax instead. (Edited not to infuriate anyone ). I personally think that loosing another hospital in our county is a horrible thing. If there is one thing this county needs desperatly it's another hospital. Maybe the place it was going was at issue but in the end the current hospital is horrible and just the fact that the people against the new hospital would have a party about it seems pretty rediculous to me. And that is all I will ever say on the issue.

 

Lostsoul-
You hit the nail on the head.
To those that make light of the incident at Inova, imagine that you (or your spouse) had a colonoscopy done at a hospital. Then, A MONTH LATER, you receive a call from the hospital telling you not to have sex with your spouse without a condom for 6 months. Would this instill confidence in that facility?
I'll be getting a routine colonoscopy in a few years. I know what hospital I won't be using.

 

Reston Hospital is about 15 minutes up the Greenway/Toll Road. We had our baby there almost 2 weeks ago, place is amazing. Very little to complain about. Brand new wing and all. And I don't think everyone is against a new Hospital in Loudoun - just not one here in the Broadlands.

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It wouldn't matter to me at all if Inova Loudoun was paying for the party .. or if they paid for the Tshirts ... In fact, I am happy they had a vested interest in the matter, otherwise us residents who were opposed probably would have been trampled upon by HCA. The residents on Awbrey and Chickakoan who opposed the bar going into the small group of stores on Truro Parish didn't have a chance ... and now that it is there, it is too late to do anything about it.

Thank You Inova Loudoun!

I look forward to another hospital openning in the county in the Dulles South area in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan Amendment.

 

And it should open just in time for your grandchildren to use.

 

I had an utterly horrific experience at Fairfax when my daughter was born and would never willingly return there for any reason whatsoever.

So, good luck to those who do decide to go there. Hopefully, you'll have a much better experience than I did because I wouldn't wish mine on anyone.