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Lawn Maintenance / Grass in Southern Walk

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by krmckee, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    I was typing as you sent your oxymoron my way!
     
  2. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    The silence is deafening.
    Just another little shot at Mr. Rogers that missed!
     
  3. krmckee

    krmckee Member

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    Getting back to the topic at hand.... I'm sure the lawn company is just trying to catch up at this point but some of the areas are the worst I've seen in years. Maybe too much rain this season? My grass got mowed but the common area behind us is pretty bad.

    Also related.... our toddler playground (end of Fieldthorn Terrace) has two huge ant colonies living there now. It's disgusting and unsafe for little kids who don't know where they're stepping. Can we get it sprayed? I guess I should call the HOA office to make the complaint....
     
  4. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    since you replied, I would guess it was at least a "glancing blow". :D
     
  5. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Nice try. We didn't send any letters out in March, either.
    Are you going to try February next, or can we just stop now?
     
  6. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    Cliff,

    As I stated, I am merely relating what a friend told me. Heresay evidence, I know.

    One of the most disturbing things about your responses is that they commonly attack my comments. Since you are a representative of the HOMEOWNERS, it would be nice, if only once, you said something like, "Gee, I noticed that the common areas were a little shaggy, too. I will be sure to speak with the Van Metre folks to see if we can put some pressure on HLS," instead of lashing out at a homeowner who makes a reasonable criticism of the work being done. (wow! thats a run on sentence that would make Lee blush)

    As I stated, I work in the hospitality industry. My business is providing outstanding service to hundreds of people every day. When I, or my staff miss the mark, we admit it, and make every effort to remedy the situation. I do not expect this level of customer service from you, Mr. President. It ain't your job! But I do expect it of the contractors that service our community, and I hope that you expect it from them as well.
     
  7. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Well, no offense Mr. Rogers, but I find a lot of your posts to simply be "cheap shots" at the HOA, ever since your issue with the "Trash Can Police" last July.
    You give some vague references to specific issues, but when questioned, and proved wrong, you back off with "Geez, that's what I was told." Reread your own posts before making accusations of others.
    I gave you a very specific response after your first post. I was even concerned enough to see if the HOA had been sending out letters. So yes, I did look into it.
    You tried to make a direct correlation between some long grass somewhere in the Common Areas and the HOA sending out violation letters. I did the research only to find out you were being disingenuous from the start.
    If you have concerns about some Common Areas, please provide the SPECIFIC locations to the HOA Office. "During a bike ride down Chickacoan"
    is not specific enough.
     
  8. shim

    shim shim

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    I work from home and watch the HLS team walk past dead tress and knee-high weeds to collect the doggie bags and re-stock doggie bags, that's it, nothing more.

    Cliff, would like you to walk or ride your bike on the trail that connects Stone Hollow to Highview Trail in SW. But be careful there is a head high dead tree branch that hangs over the path - an accident waiting to happen. You'll also notice out of control weeds, trash, dead trees (dead over 1 year) and please pay special attention to the VM corner landscaping at each end of the trial. It's bad and makes us all angry given the cost of living in this HOA community.
     
  9. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    shim-
    HLS is not responsible for cleaning up trash unless directed by the HOA. As I've told others (and got my head bit off) it would be nice if the residents that live around Common Areas that need trash picked up would get together and have clean up days.
    After all, it is ALL OF US that "own" the Common Areas and it is us residents that have created the trash.
    This was done recently by a group of residents that live behind the Safeway Center. They did a marvelous job.
    If we all want to pay for trash patrols on a full-time basis, that can be accomodated....at an expense to the HOA and your HOA fees.

    HLS does not remove dead trees from Common Areas (except for the ornamental ones recently planted) unless directed by the HOA.

    Please contact the HOA Office with any specific areas that you feel need attention.
    Anyone can feel free to post their concerns here, but if you want it looked at, call the office.

    Regarding your specific concern about that trail, it is still owned and maintained by Van Metre, not the HOA.
     
  10. Mr Rogers

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    Cliff,
    May I recommend that instead of your response, which is defensive and "pours gasoline on a fire", how about saying???
    "I will contact Wes about the problems that you listed here It concerns me when there is a situation that is not only unsightly, but also could cause injury to a resident or visitor."

    I understand that the forums are NOT an official means of communication between the residents/officers/staff of the Broadlands. However, if I were in Wes' shoes, I'd monitor this site daily. (Side note: Disney spends considerable resources viewing the dozens of sites blogs and forums about their parks, movies and TV stations).
     
  11. T8erman

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    Mr. Rogers,

    May I suggest that you treat future correspondence as a "two-way street".

    You have fanned the flames yourself with sarcasm and rhetoric in your HOA "actionable" related posts that others (Cliff??) may not take as humor or harmful bantering.

    Just a thought.
     
  12. Silence Dogood99

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    Mr. Rogers, this is what happens to the boy who cries "Wolf!" twelve too many times :)
     
  13. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    And Disney has the money and a full-time staff dedicated to that. Disney is a commercial entity. Disney has a budget that dwarfs even our county budget. If you want your HOA dues going to pay for HOA employees to monitor the forums "daily" because it is too "inconvenient" to place a simple phone call, then please tell me what other service you would like to forego in order for them to do this. Or would you propose we increase next year's dues in order to hire someone? I believe you have a misconception as to how much work the limited HOA paid staff actually does. They already have a considerable workload.

    Additionally, I would prefer that HOA resources get these types of requests by phone in order to avoid folks posting information on these forums which is inaccurate and sometimes plain wrong, something that has already happened many times in the past, and just recently in this thread. With the perceived annonymity that these forums provide, this has been an issue in the past. At least with a phone number, there's a certain level of accountability. I would hate for someone to register here and begin sending our resources on wild goose chases...
     
  14. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Uh, no. The Forums ARE NOT the please to get action by the HOA and I have specifically asked Wes NOT to spend his time on these Forums.

    Also, I was out on my bike today on the trails.
    Went up on the Stone Hollow Trail. The area was mowed, no trash around, and I spend the 30 seconds it took to break off the branch. Even met Shim and he thanked me for my efforts.

    As for Chickacoan, I also rode the whole length of it. Your "12 inch grass" is as ficticous as your lawn violation letters.
    I guess you had a few too many glasses of wine because there wasn't a word of truth anywhere in your post.

    Have a nice day! :pofl:
     
  15. Mr Rogers

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    You are truly amazing!!! I posted 4 days ago about the overgrown common areas on Chickacoan. Ummm...you think that perhaps HLS has mowed it since then?

    The reason that I am responding with this level of fervor is that Cliff basically called me a liar in his response. Obviously, everything is "peachy-keen in Cliff's Broadlands", except when a homeowner is critical about anything.
     
  16. Mr Rogers

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    In all reality, it probably dwarfs the state budget!

    Good use of dwarf in describing a Disney relationship.

    Disney monitors several boards, including this one with 172507 members and 22,787,659 posts.

    I'm just talking about glancing at this occassionally. I regularly review forums that relate to my facility. I don't worry about every post, but if I see more than 2 about one subject, then I know that it is an issue that effects my business, positively or negatively.
     
  17. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Uh, no they hadn't mowed it in the last four days. They were just starting on Chickacoan on the southern end. The Common Areas were clearly long, like most lawns, but HAD NOT been mowed yet.

    I'm not calling you a liar, just pointing out that the statements made in your post were not factual.
    You choose to be critical about the HOA on a routine basis ever since you had to put your trash can away. That's fine, as long as there's some facts behind your criticism.
    If you care to clarify yourself, why don't you give the specifics of the "resident letters" and exactly where on Chickacoan the grass was 12 inches high. As each of your comments is disproven, you change your story and feign "outrage" at my responses.
     
  18. shim

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    O.K., I'm still sort of a newbie on the forums and don't know all the ins and outs of HOA versuses VM etc.. I must say I couldn't be more impressed with Cliff's committment to our community issues. The same morning of my post I saw Cliff peddling up the trial and taking note of my concerns. I was happy to introduce myself and we had a informative and genial conversation. I will follow up with VM regarding the state of the trail - I didn't realize that it was still under their control - though I should have realized that by the tell tale signs of neglect and cluelessness.

    Cliff it was a pleasure meeting you and I for one sincelery appreciate your advocacy on our behalf.
     
  19. Mr Rogers

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    Cliff, go measure the grass on the median on Broadlands Blvd, right now!
     
  20. Mr Rogers

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    You know what, this is really immature. I'm out again. See you all in 2 months when I am tired of lurking.

    My only point was that the rules for the residents, set by the HOA, shouldn't be beyond the abilities of the HOA to adhere to on their own property.
     

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