Beware!!!

amazing how you all were looking for blood re the HOA.. the 'silence', etc. Bah

If you have a real question, PICK UP THE PHONE! You all pay for Wes to have a job. If it bothers you, CALL HIM.

The forums are not the offical channel of the HOA. Like Staci posted above, the HOA has a set process on how this situation would have been processed if it was the HOA. Maybe you would have thought 'wow, it couldn't have been the HOA since there was no process'.. instead you guys act like the HOA was doing everything on a whim and you've caught them 'screwing up'.

Talk about freaking bias.

The same thing could have been answered if the owners called the HOA.

This thread simply demonstrates the power of FUD and people's inability to seperate 'convience' of the internet and authoritity iniformation.

-Steve

 

Oh, and 9:30 am to 1:30 am is not 'silence'. Again, this forum is not the offical channel of the HOA, and 4 hrs is nothing considering this forum doesn't even have notifications.

Maybe the HOA was out doing what we pay them to do, rather then sitting on the forum and posting 4 times about something they don't know rather then picking up the phone to ask?

-Steve

 

The forum is a community forum.. and its being used just for that. It is not the offical channel to report issues to HOA, nor is it HOA's responsibility to read every post here and respond.

You're hung up that someone isn't waiting to respond to your posts.

Within 5hrs you were already posting stuff like

UNDER 5hrs from the original post. HOA board members do read and post here, but its not their responsibility to monitor and respond here. If you want an issue addressed, contact them via the posted methods.

-Steve

 

Actually, not it hasn't. This thread was opened on the morning of the 14th. Your post was the afternoon of the 15th. Thats only a tad over 1 day. Plus, you'll see that an HOA board member DID post in just over a day.

And actually, Staci was responding to the topic that day by making phone calls and looking into things. But because of incomplete information, she chose not to post because she didn't have the complete picture. Rather then spreading mis-information, she chose to wait. And actually, she posted at ~2pm the following day from when the thread was opened.

Considering its not part of the routine, an answer in just about a day isn't too bad I'd think.

Again, the HOA board does not 'patrol' the forums as part of their routine. The forum is not the conduit to reach the HOA board. The forum is a community forum, actually provided by volunteers of a committee.

If less then a few hours is too long to wait for a response, I suggest you contact the HOA. Otherwise, you're going to get a response here when its convient to them. For instance, if you look at Wes's postings, you'll see they are mostly of a personal interest (computers, etc), not in an 'offical function'. Cliff posts mostly to provide information about activities most people aren't aware of, or to pass along information when people ask. These people are using the forums just as we do, on a personal basis.

Sure, but the topic has come up in NUMEROUS discussions and the consensus has been the forum (and even the website) are not sufficent enough ways to reach community's members. That's why you'll find activities don't happen until they can be posted in the newsletter, and other ways as well, besides just posting in the forum.

I'm not saying everyone should call the HOA.. I'm saying if its such a big deal to you or whomever that you feel its appropriate to grap your pitchforks and torches.. you should call first.

Lack of a post on a forum in under 24hrs is not grounds for conspiracy claims when its not the job of the HOA to even be in the forum.


-Steve

 

Then put up or shutup and goto the board meetings and make your case why they should spend salary time reading the forums and how you think it should be a offical communications channel for them.

The only one you are going to convince by posting here is yourself. If you want something done about it, go do it.

-Steve

 

Where do I sign up for the 'homer army'? Let me guess. you got lots of emails backing you up.. Regardless I could care less. You post your opinion all over, I'll post mine.

Again, you miss the point. They do it on a personal basis. What right do you have to go spreading claims and what not if they don't jump when you say jump?

Yes, you emailed them. Which by the way is one of the ways they list to contact them. Congratulations on putting one and one together. The HOA uses email as part of their normal correspondance, and as such, we as HOA members pay for their own access, and own email addresses. Note the homeowners guide, nor the website say 'please open a thread on the forum if you want to contact us'.

Yes, Staci is my wife, but that's got nothing to do with it. If you notice, I'm actually more active here then she is. I'm also on the technology committee. The reason I posted is because of the unreasonable assumptions being made and the mob mentality that was forming.

I'm not defending her at all. I'm pointing out the unrealistic expectations people here have. Face it, this is a place to discuss topics and share ideas between our fellow residents, its not a conduit to reach the board. I can tell you things here do make noise within the HOA board. However, posting something here in no way replaces the normal means of communications.

Personally when I read the start of this thread, I thought why on earth would my first concern be posting on a forum rather then talking to the authorities? In my view, that would be the HOA and then the police. This thread started out with lots of unknowns, and rather then people waiting for facts, everyone drew their own conclusions.


-Steve

 

oh yeah.. its a big conspiracy [xx(]

What is 'normal' in your eyes of the internet and news media means little. All I'm saying is, if you think its relevant that the HOA should use the forum in an offical manner, then go tell your story, TO THE BOARD. I would suspect you that you'd probably loose some freedoms here if that were the case.

Also, I'm not an officer, I'm just a volunteer.

If anything, I think something like a blog for community activity/annoucements/'hot news' would be more appropriate then using the forums. Forums (especially as they are setup now) require someone to seek out information by digging through it, it is by no means lightweight or focused.

And no way I'd want Wes spending his salary time trolling through the forums waiting for posts. If you need to talk to the HOA, there are plenty ways which are more direct. I think the way the HOA is 'present' in the forums, especially cliff's posts, to chime in when they have something to add is a good middle-ground. Remember, Cliff, Donna, Staci, and the others are not paid at all, they too are volunteers, so responsivness from them in a forum is 'as you get it'. Only Wes, Arlene, and the admin (?) I believe are the only paid people in the HOA.

I go through the budget every year, mostly out of curiousity, to see how the HOA is spending money. It tweaks me when we pay for things like the amount of milage we pay for Wes to do his work until I ask questions enough to understand why and what he is doing. I certainly don't want to be paying for 'internet time'.

Tho.. to bring this back to the other thread.. I would be willing to pay and extra 2 bucks or something to that order of magnititude if that meant we had 2 cars patrolling the community


-Steve