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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    If I spent it looking for a new job, I am sure that I'd be re-employed by now :clap:

    I wasn't commenting on the newsletter per se, I was pointing out that the battle for our medical $$ has provided an advertising source that didn't exist in the past, and may not in the future. The contraversy has created two unique customers for a newsletter.
     
  2. Brassy

    Brassy Hiyah

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    Hey Gyrphon I like your cruising note! We are in the market for a new non-wagon for me, but need something taller and that can haul a lot of stuff to and from college. Unfortuntely going to the WAY OVERCROWDED auto show made my decision even harder as people were hoggin the seats in cars I wanted to look at! We've looked at the so-called crossover suv's and they just don't suit for the taller members(6'1" and 6'4") in the family, but going too much larger gets back to why we sold off the old Expedition. What's a person to do? we need a hauler for at lest 8 years to get two kids through college. Sorry to all for hijacking this thread...just the jet black metallic saab was to bright and shiny of an object to look away:p
     
  3. Brassy

    Brassy Hiyah

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    Hey Mr. Rogers,
    If you need a new job check out Notchup.com Read about it in the Washington Post yesterday.
     
  4. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    :happygrin: I love my 9-3 Convertible and recommend it to anyone in looking for a fun car that's not yet another German car. It's fun to drive and loaded at a good price.

    However, it definitely can't haul much in the trunk. Still, the back seat is ample enough for kids and the normal weekend stuff.

    Have you checked out the new Jeep Wranglers? That might be an option. There is a four-door version now, and it can come with a hard-top or soft-top (both can come off to make a convertible). It's pretty rough and tumble, but it's not a completely spartan vehicle like the old Jeeps.
     
  5. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    I'm in the market for a new convertible and the fact that you have a Saab makes me not want to get one.;) Also, I looked at the new Jeeps and IMO, the 4dr Jeeps look like a cheap H3.
     
  6. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    I'll stick with the yet-another-German car Porsche anyday over the Saab :)
    No comparison.
     
  7. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Gryphon - sorry but I love my 335i, tons of performance in a little sedan.
     
  8. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    :hijack::offtopic::blahblah:
     
  9. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    Bump!!!

    Bump!!!
     
  10. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    You would not buy one anyway. The SAAB demographic is known to be highly educated.:devil2:

    That's a great car. I was not criticizing it. In fact, I almost got the new hardtop coupe 335. However, I was just seeing far too many of 3-Series around... I have a non-conformist streak that just does not quit.

    Back to the topic at hand, are any of the pro-hospital supporters going to answer Mr Rogers before he has a heart attack? :scaredeyes:
     
  11. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Mr. Rogers - where is the concentration of population density eastern or western Loudoun?

    I think it is disingenuous to imply that HCA is acting in an odious manner and gives little merit in an attemp to discredit HCA’s COPN.
     
  12. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    So how did you end up with one?:devil2: (okay, I'm done)
     
  13. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    I get the feeling it is Mr. Roger's who enjoys stirring the hostility bucket. An dats al I gota say bout dat.
     
  14. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Too bad he wouldn't be able to go to a closer hospital if he had a heart attack. He's just baiting and/or showing complete ignorance so his post is not worthy of a response.

    I seem to recall this is the person who wanted HCA to "feel bad" about closing a hospital where less than a third of the beds were filled.
     
  15. Mr Rogers

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    I was being a little provocative by using the angel/devil icons, I must admit.

    It really had just occured to me, for the first time, the reason that HCA picked the Broadlands as a sight, and is unwilling to consider another location.

    I truly found the ad on the back of the Broadlands Assoc Newsletter a little insulting to my intellect. Am I a bad parent because I don't want a hospital 30 seconds from my back door? I guess that would make my Dad a bad parent, because I once waited 12 hours (overnight) for him to decide that my foot injury was serious enough to warrant a doctors visit? (I had actually torn 3 ligaments completely off my foot).

    Come on, that type of tactic deserves my type of response. Don't tell us that you are bring the hospital to "serve" a population that has no viable alternatives. They are plopping themselves into the middle of $$$! That is, quite literally, the bottom line. Anyone who beleives that this company is acting altruistically is the ultimate optimist.

    You know that there are only two types of people with mental illness:
    1. Those that have insurance
    2. The homeless

    Trust me, it is way more profitable for a hospital to be at 30% occupancy with 95% well insured patients than to be at 60% occupancy with 50% insured.

    For the record, I have not stated that I am against the hospital. I am, however, against the hospital being built without regard for the viewpoint of the community.
     
  16. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Mr. Rogers,

    Read this blog! Read the BOS minutes! Read the newspaper! You will find an enormous amount of "viewpoint of the community". Including a significant amount of pro hospital evaluation. Which you seem to think is unacceptable. That's your opinion, but you make it seem like the community doesn't have an opportunity for in put, that is absolutely not true.

    I would also point you to HCA's response to community viewpoint and the actions taken to met those viewpoints.
     
  17. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    No way! Are you serious? You mean a for-profit business chose to locate where they could actually make money? How dare they.

    I don't believe anyone claimed HCA is being altruistic in any way. They are responsible to those who have invested and risked their money to provide a good return on investment. It would be irresponsible to choose a location like, say Destine, where there is no demand and only 30% of the beds would be filled.

    Do you actually understand the difference between businesses and churches/non-profits?!
     
  18. Mr Rogers

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    I don't think that I have blamed them for opening in the Broadlands. HCA put the ad on the back of the BA Newsletter. Did you read it? They are building the hospital so my children's suffering can be reduced.

    To answer your question, if you look at the proliferation of churches in the last 7 years in our neck of Loudoun County, it appears that there is little difference between churches and businesses. Churches also seem to follow the scent of money.
     
  19. Silence Dogood99

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    It must be sad to hold such a tainted and distorted view of the world, and question people's motives like you do. This says more about you than the churches and businesses--maybe you are the one fixated on money.

    It must be nice to understand the motives of other people's hearts. Wow.

    Could it possibly be that the churches and their many volunteers serve families because there is a need here? Or do you presuppose that those with money have no need for God or spiritual enrichment? Do you realize that the vast majority of those who volunteer (that means they don't get paid) at homeless shelters, recovery programs, prisons, women's shelters, soup kitchens and the like are the very Christians and religious people you like to disparage? Again, you live in a pathetic little world of your own making.
     
  20. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Mr. Rogers-
    The discussion about the viability of a hospital in Western Loudoun has already been discussed. It won't happen. No population base or suitable property size with utilities.
    BRMC's location will serve far more western Loudoun residents than a hospital on Rte 50, where Inova thinks the only other location for a hospital in the county should be.

    Do you work? Do you make money? Would you like to make more? Can you name a business, either for-profit or not-for-profit that doesn't want to make money?
    Why aren't you concerned about Inova's fat profits?
    Does this have anything to do with healthcare?
     

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