New Lawn Rules

You got me.and I have seen the error in my ways.

The next time my neighbor's car has an expired tag, I won't tell him I will just call the cops.
The next time a package gets delivered to my house by mistake rather than taking it to right address I will call Fedex and have them pick it up.
The next time my neighbor is away for a funeral and can't cut his grass I will report him to the HOA and let you guys cut his grass.

Will you guys get off your high horse and come down to reality here.

I didn't say or imply that by being friends with an inspector would result in me getting away with anything. If an inspector friend tells me of an HOA rule about basketball goals that I didn't know of rather than sending me a threatening letter then that is great. I would read the rule and submit the forms. This isn't unethical. There is no preferential treatment. This is what people do. This is what a neighborhood is about.

Neighbors working with each other and helping out as necessary.

 

Noted. I think most people (and I am one of them) don't know all the rules and the first time we become aware of them is when we get the letters. When I get a letter (3 letters in 9 years), I read the rule and the light bulb goes off. No big deal.

 

Point of order - Nicholson - crazy actor / Nicklaus - great golfer! Sorry!

 

I disagre with this wholeheartedly. With that thinking, it should be easier for me to keep my house clean than the Bellagio, but alas, I must admit that the opposite is true!

 

Only if they are nekkid (hope that's not "too blue" for the board).

 

I see your point and respect it. It's obvious that you care deeply about this issue. I would recommend that everyone be calmer about the changes that the HOA has made. I don't think they will end up affecting many homeowners. If, for some strange reason, the HOA decides to launch a jihad over minor issues of personal taste and concepts of beauty, then I think the community will react appropriately and change the representation on the HOA. Until then, watchful waiting and all of us making a commitment to report any "funny business" by the HOA (if it does occur, and I doubt it will) on these forums would seem like a good approach.

I bet that comment is way too blue for some! I think the reds believe that people are born fully clothed! (humor alert)

 

What about this. Suppose a couple is, well you know, doing it. Suppose they leave the blinds drapes or have non because nobody can see into their home unless they are on their private property. Now mr or mrs HOA cop type person walks onto said property unannounced and sees all this through the windows that could only be seen from their private property.

Could be a very interesting lawsuit

 

Your thinking is flawed. Easier has nothing to do with it. People are PAID to keep the Bellagio clean "to a certain standard" every day, you are not. Besides, have you ever had to clean the Bellagio?

As for common area landscape maintenance, I am sure "a certain standard" could be achieved but at what cost? When the HOA puts out bids, I doubt that they are looking for the highest bidder.

I live in SW and our lawn maintenace is part of our HOA fees. I would GLADLY and WILLINGLY do my own yard (some of which I still do) to avoid the monthly fee AND because I could maintain my yard better.

 

Well Steve my criminal attorney brother told me this morning he does not think it is as simple as you say. He thinks it could be a very very interesting case in some circumstances. Too bad he does not want to post on here Oh by the way he is a big fan of video far more then still pictures. The camera phones especially can tell many a interesting story at times, but that is a different topic all together

 

Lee, Steve is correct in his initial post regarding the definition of trespassing.

http://virginiacriminallawyers.vatrafficlaw.com/pages/trespass.html

 

wow- it takes less ernergy to mow the darn grass than it does to address this issue in here! but it's interesting what hot buttons get ppl talking around here...

 

Good try mr T8 bit lets say the mr or mrs hoa happens to look thru said window and is caught looking at the couple and even better on video. Mr or mrs hoa could be charged with lewdness. See it gets into a grey area even when you think you are right and all hell breaks loose trying to prove yourself innocent.

 

Lee, not sure why you bring me up when you quoted Redon1??????

But yeah, if you want to scenarioize, you can do it for just about anything. BIG WHOOP!
So, as an HOA person, If I am am your property legally and I trip and hurt myself on a hole in your property... GREY AREA!!!

Your example is lame. If one is allowed on your property it is NOT trespassing. And in your example, peeking through a window or video taping is also NOT trespassing.

So stick the the thread my man!

Oh, and btw, if a couple is boinking with their windows open, THAT can also be lewd behaviour regardless if one is on their property or not.

JEEESH!

 

Well T8 I hit the wrong quote button

My point is there is many things that can go wrong and it is not as black and white as you and Steve make it out to.

 

But the law is mostly black and white.

And yes, anything can go wrong with anything.

AGAIN - If I am on your property legally and I video tape you and your wife (EWWWWW), it has NOTHING to do with trespassing.