Broadlands Medical Facility

The second most definately. However this occurs even w/o Clydes or the office building.

 

Certain crimes are abominations and therefore require the perp to be mental. Is that a hard concept? Not all crimes but you have to admit someone who commits arson for fun has a problem which is different than for money reasons.

Do all hospitals have mental wards of the size proposed? If so I concede the argument.

 

Oh I agree. I have no problem putting them in jail even if they are mental. But you have to admit molesters are wired wrong and it is an abominable act against nature.

 

I guess GOD is to blame for that one...I'll send him a formal complaint: "Please stop making crazy pervs in your image. We have children to protect."

I think Hospitals have mental health programs based on the services they are capable of providing. Not all hospitals will have an addiction program, not all hospitals will have an acute care program. They all require specialists in the field. Are you aware of the nature of the services and specialties that will be provided? If they have reserved 30 beds for mental health, is it largely for trauma patients that go through emotional rehabilitation? (think about a person who loses a leg after falling off a roof while power washing homes for money to provide for his family. The loss of limb and income sends this person into depression). I doubt much of this has been determined yet. My biggest fear with the hospital is that it will attract ambulance chasing pesonal injury lawyers like John Edwards (ooops, political smear).

scott shipm

 

I don't know, do you? If it's for trauma that's A-OK. They're still going to have to go outpatient to their own Head Plumber though.

I don't think God makes the crazies. Who could it be? Could it be.....








SATAN!

 

gammonbabe...the following might be helpful in understanding why Ashburn is the better site for a hospital. I obtained the following population stats from the Loudoun County website:
Number of residents:
Ashburn - 49,497
Leesburg - 42,507
Potomac - 42,201
Sterling - 29,306

The county's total population is 211,146. The above areas represent 77% of the county's total population, and Ashburn is central to both Leesburg and the combined areas of Potomac and Sterling.

 

How does that show that it should be in Broadlands? I would rather it be near the empty campus of Worldcomm.

 

These stats provide lazer insight into where the population is. The numbers are right here, not in South Riding, not in Leesburg, not in the West.

The State has officially determined the need for a hospital in this area. A signficant fact overlooked in this discussion.

We have a purchased, available, and convenient site. We have a company willing to build now. We have a multi-year process for approval complete.

To change location now would result in a tremendous delay, one that is not acceptable in my mind. We can have health care options for those represented by these statics now. In my opinion, it is not a wise tactic to delay. These numbers will double by the time the process is complete for an alternative site.

The requirement lives now. Any contrived delay can only be a reflection on corporate greed by LHI.

 

AFGM, Still waiting to hear from you on my invitation (and my treat) to meet and discuss the hospital. I don't know if you are aware that I have recently been elected to the Broadlands HOA, I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong Glen) that you are the president,treasurer of the Ashburn Board of Trustees. Knowing that, I think it would be an informative meeting for both of us. BTW I hope you were able to sell your French horn.

 

Loudoun Board of Education just bought the old Saudi School property. Maybe HCA can build their hospital there. Then Loudoun Board of Ed can have this HCA site.... they could trade HCA would be right across from a ritzy rich neighborhood and near World Com and 28... perfect location since they desire to be so close to LHC.

 

That's white wash and you know it. The tactic buy the land and build anyway even though it's not wanted here is not ethical. That says alot about HCA.

 

"..though it's not wanted here..."[B)]Maybe you don't want it here, but I would like it here. And both sides have supporters.

HCA bought the land, after positive signs, by the state, and the community that a hospital would be a wonderful thing. I am grateful they proactively went about the land aquisition. It will allow the facility to be built sooner.

Another thing we should be debating: where, if anywhere, within the Commonwealth, has a county "dictated" where hospitals should be? They certainly are involved, but it is the states charter to decide healthcare requirements, timing and location. This is very wise, and has been serving Virginians for a long time. The State becomes an honest broker for determining healthcare needs, based on population and service requirements. If every county tried to promote their own healthcare, it would be immensely fragmented, inefficient, and would lead to hospitals going out of business. (And before you jump on this comment, show me one hospital, within the Commonwealth that has economically gone out of business because of a State decision)

Sounds like a proven and sound process to me. I am greatful it has worked to justify a hospital here.

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That's white ash and you know it. The tactic buy the land and build anyway even though it's not wanted here is not ethical. That says alot about HCA.
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AFGM, Still waiting to hear from you on my invitation (and my treat) to meet and discuss the hospital.I think it would be an informative meeting for both of us.

 

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Puhlease- It's not in your nbeighborhood so you can be Oh I'm so glad blah blah blah. You sound like a lobbyist. And in cas eyou haven't noticed the State does not care about us just our money:

(1) SCC enable toll road to gouge us
(2) SCC will enable Dominion to cut down our trees
(3) We get what $.25 / tax dollar back in road money?
(4) State laws prohibit the county from requiring developers to build roads.

VA is Pro-Business and Anti-NoVA. I'm curious, AFGM are you a born Viriginian or did you move here? Hardly any native NoVan I know trusts Richmond as much as you do. You must be a refugee from the north or have blue blood.

I also do want the Hospital here just not in Broadlands. Two miles east is plenty. So what if it's built in 2010 instead of 2008. It's not like we can;t go to the EXISTING hospital or Reston. Also it was clear the Broadlands residents are split w/ the votes going to the anti side. Either way it is not the Mandate you proclaim.

 

Homer, thanks for asking...I've been in Virginia since 1964. I consider it my home, and I am proud to call myself a Virginian. Raised in Northern Virginia, lived in Loudoun County for 16 years, schooled in Fairfax County, and at Virginia Tech. I like to think I know Virginia very well, beyond just the neighborhood. I certainly do not consider myself a blue blood, not that I see that it matters.

"...two miles east is plenty..." That says it all Homer. That says it all. Not in my backyard is not a defense for the requirements of a community much bigger than you consider it. A hospital is a requirement for today, not a requirement for years from now.

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VA is Pro-Business and Anti-NoVA. I'm curious, AFGM are you a born Viriginian or did you move here? Hardly any native NoVan I know trusts Richmond as much as you do. You must be a refugee from the north or have blue blood.


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VA is Pro-Business and Anti-NoVA. I'm curious, AFGM are you a born Viriginian or did you move here? Hardly any native NoVan I know trusts Richmond as much as you do. You must be a refugee from the north or have blue blood.


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Blacksburg is a far cry from Richmond. I'm a Hokie too but I've lived in Richmond, Norfolk, the Eastern Shore, and the Southwest. One thing they all have in common is the philosphy of let NoVA pay fot it. They don't like us and are happy to take our money. Since you lived here so long you know that the Blue Bloods in Richmond are those who can trace generations back to living in VA and they resent theinflux from the north. This matter b/c the SCC will continue to let us get the shaft. NIMBY is certainly valid when it is something hazardous. No one said word about my comment that put the Mental hospital in the same class as Nuclear power plants and prisons. All three are needed. All three have facts showing they are safe but yet you don't want the prison and the Nuclear plant?

At least agree on the fact that HCA only wants a hospital here in Broadlands b/c it knows we are a wealthy community and all have health insurance. I do agree with you that we need another hospital. If they removed the mental I would be all for it. I don't think them moving it would cause the healthcare holocost you are suggesting. They're is another hospital five miles away and another in Reston and another in Fairfax.

Resorting to NIMBY laebel is not a sufficient argument on why it should not be moved or why HCA is unethical. Maybe if you'd address those issues we could move on instead of tap dancing around the issue. If you can't then I'm moving on to other topics b/c this is going nowhere.

 

Please forgive but I am very comfuse. I not abel to read here much but we have Broadland survey last year and more people say 'no' about hospital that say 'yes'. Why this issue now? It should be settle and over. Why the survey not settle? I thought it came from Broadland and mean to settle.

 

Welcome to the debate and democratic process. It can be confusing, but a local survey does not end debate. Your opinion is valued and important. Continue to speak your mind, regardless of your view. Debate only leads to good decisions.

The local survey was not inconclusive of all that are effected. It was also very close, too close to statistically call it for either side. This is an issue for the entire area not just Broadlands. The survey was important as it shows how passionate Broadlands is on both sides of the issue, and also shows how closely divided Broadlands is.

It is my opinion, the further you move out of Broadlands, the more support you will see for the hospital, because the NIMBY (not in my backyard) argument becomes mute. No one has done a survey that includes views beyond the NIMBY effect.

 

NIMBY is valid and does not take away any of the merits of my argument. Again. Would you like a prison or a Nuke Facility here?

 

I don't know how to respond to your question.

I don't see the relevance or relationship between a hospital and a prison, or nuke facility.

NIMBY is valid and does not take away any of the merits of my argument. Again. Would you like a prison or a Nuke Facility here?
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