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Something for the tweenies?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by vacliff, Jul 29, 2006.

  1. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    Actually, a cop lives there it seems... I've seen him coming and going from work...
     
  2. joy

    joy New Member

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    I live right near this shopping center and most often see kids skateboarding there. I think both a skate park, or a business aimed at these kids such as an video game cafe, arcade or laser tag (do kids still do that?) would both be good ideas. The skate park is something we can do ourselves. The business is something we have to encourage.
     
  3. Pats_fan

    Pats_fan Former Resident

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    Keep in mind that the "base" of children/teens in Broadlands probably wouldn't support something that you all are discussing, so such a facility would be expected to draw teens into Broadlands from all over Loudoun County. Something to think about...
     
  4. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    IMO.. any facility should be limited to broadlands residents just like the pools. You setup a similar system and require parental consent before the kids are given 'passes'
     
  5. sunnydog

    sunnydog New Member

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    Why limit it to just broadlands? If an Ashburn teen center were discussed we could pull funding from ALL the neighborhoods and broaden the amount of kids to reach.
     
  6. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    It seems we're all forgetting the parents. Why aren't they providing entertainment for the kids? I don't want to foot the bill to entertain someone else's kids who are misbehaving.

    So provide a facility that offers a place for these kids but do so on a membership basis. Believe me, the same kids will be loitering around because they're not interested in structured activity or else they would utilize the pools, libraries, Nature Center, etc., or stay home and play video games on their own computers or watch movies on their own TV's. They just want to hang out with there friends.
     
  7. hberg

    hberg give me some of your tots

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    I think a Dave & Buster's would make $$$ in our area.
     
  8. sunnydog

    sunnydog New Member

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    me too. anyone in for a franchise opportunity?
     
  9. Peppermint

    Peppermint New Member

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    Oh absolutely!

    I so want to go there again, but the drive is just too far.
     
  10. clwjl5

    clwjl5 New Member

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    I think from some of the earlier post seems like most of you have smaller children - they do grow up and become tweens. I am the mom to 3 boys 15, 10 and 2 1/2 and there really is nothing in the neighborhood for the older children to do. They do like to hang out with their friends and there is nothing wrong with it. I remember when I was teenager we went to movies (none are close to here - until Brambleton opens up), we went to the skating rink in Sterling (last time I checked it was turned into a furniture store). The older kids really do not have anywhere to go to hang out and be kids with their friends. Are you going to have kids that get into trouble - of course you will - it is part of growing up and discovering who you are. It is interesting how adults think once they become adults. Kids today really are not too different then we were.
     
  11. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    the 'none close to here' arguement doesn't work unless you consider 'walking distance' a requirement. In that case.. hello.. look around.. we live in a car community.. not a city.

    Movies? Sterling (what.. a 10min drive?) You think you are going to walk to Brambeton? What difference does 5 minutes make in a drive?
    Skating Rink? How about Ice Rink.. less then 5 minutes away

    The point of any such place isn't to make kids not hang with their friends.. but to do so in an area that tries to help prevent 'idle hands...'

    To the 'whole ashburn' thing.. why would I want all of ashburn's teens running around our community? and on our dime? That's a role for the county, not us.
     
  12. sunnydog

    sunnydog New Member

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    I think the point is missed Steve.
    The idea is to promote a place where youth, not all who can drive or should drive, can congregate in a responsible manner.
    Your HOA dues go to fund lots of "tots" amenities - the pool, the tot lots, etc.

    What ever happened to the YMCA issue? Is that totally dead in the water?
     
  13. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Dead and buried.
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I know.. that's what I'm promoting.

    My point was.. if you use the arguement 'there is nothing to do' that will ALWAYS apply unless you live in a walking city or one with a good bus system. Nearly EVERYWHERE you need to drive.. we are not unique in that regard. And if you have to drive.. is Sterling so far away it doesn't count.. compared to brambleton? come on

    Kids have 10x the entertainment possibilities that even my generation had.. and we had it great compared to the previous ones.. and so on. Don't complain there isn't anything to do. Please.

    Want nothing to do? Grow up where your nearest neighbors are a few miles away and you don't have things like internet/cable/videogames or any siblings. Then I'll listen. But growing up in a area like this.. whatever. Its the stereotypical teen response.
     
  15. Twriter

    Twriter Get a Mac!

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    The Ashburn Ice House isn't that accessible to the tweens. My two older kids work there and it is a 10-minute drive, sometimes 15 (depends on if their shift starts around rush hour). Also, they don't have all that many public skating sessions. Most of the sessions are booked with figure skating and hockey. You'd think that with two sheets of ice that they'd always have a public skating session available, but they've grown quite popular in the figure skating and hockey circles. They wanted to add a third sheet but the land cost was too high. The land they wanted is now a strip mall.

    I think Brambleton is going to have an outdoor rink, but that will only be open in the winter (ala Reston Town Center).

    --- John B.
     
  16. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    go play inline hockey at Trailside =)
     
  17. clwjl5

    clwjl5 New Member

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    Obviously the majority of you have small children who have forgotten that they do grow up. We have several tot lots for the little kids, pools (only in the summer obviously). What is wrong with having a place for teens to go to within our community? In regards to Movies - yeah there is one in Sterling, however, it normally is much longer than a 10 minute commute - see all the traffic post on the forum. I am really getting tired of the complaint that all teens are looking for trouble or it will attract the wrong crowd. Has Broadlands really gotten so snobby that teens are a bad thing? I would say on average each house in Broadlands has at least 2 kids (AVERAGE). What do you think all of those cute little babies all of you have are going to grow up to be????

    Just for the record my boys are very active - Hockey at the Ice House, Golf at Brambleton, My middle son enjoys swimming, Older teen prefers not to, yes we drive them to the movies in Sterling, Skate Park in Leesburg, Driving Range in Dulles, Dulles Mall when they want to go....notice something here??? the only one listed in our community for teens is the Pool. Yet I can go on and on regarding activities for smaller children. If you want teens to stay out of trouble it definitely falls on the parents to ensure they have raised their child the correct way. However, they are teenagers and they do like to hang out - what is wrong with us providing a place for them to do so? If you are worried about kids outside of the neighborhood then require a pass for them to access the facility - just like we do for the pool.
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Teens are statistically the most accident prone drivers. That's a fact. I don't need to exagerate the # of them in the community if we don't have to.

    Second.. why should we bother providing for kids from the farm/village/etc? They have resources.. let them use them.

    Third.. this is a residential area, increasing through-traffic wouldn't exactly be a top priority for most people.


    Notice NOTHING you listed there (besides our pool) is in a RESIDENTIAL community? You are listing all things that the area offers that you provide access to for your children. What's wrong with that? Would you prefer all that commercial activity be in your backyard instead so your children can walk? If you wanted that, why did you move into a planned residential community that had none of that planned? If you want to be able to walk to everything.. you need to live in the city or city-sprawl.

    You just listed alot of things that are available, they just aren't walking distance.
     
  19. clwjl5

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    I am not saying to offer it to everyone - the pool isn't offered to everyone.


    How would it be increasing traffic if it is for Broadlands residents only?


    Never said I wanted to live in the city and never said I objected to driving. Just stated I didn't see a problem with the community providing something for teens when we offer so much for smaller children.

    Ok, then why do we have so many tot lots?

    Remember I do have children for the toddler stage, tween stage and teen stage. All I am saying is we offer a lot for the smaller children (activities at the community center, nature center and tot lots). What is the harm in offering activities for the older kids?
     
  20. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Which is what I said a page ago on this thread.

    Again.. I was giving examples of why I don't want to support OUTSIDE teens. You said:

    I simply gave examples of why I don't want to draw/support OUTSIDE teens. Teens aren't bad.. but if given the choice, no I don't want to be the teen hangout for all of Ashburn. I was qualifying why there is a difference between OUR teens and generically supporting teens for the whole area (as brought up by others).

    This isn't even a comparison. You are trying to compare static playground gear to a facility that would require facilities, utilities, employees, equipment, upkeep, and more. You should also recognize the totlots were all built by the DEVELOPER, not the HOA.

    The community does, and tries. The rec committee puts on events (pool party, foam party, etc) for the teens but has struggled with interest. We put on LAN gaming parties. etc etc.

    All the activities you gave as examples were not community things. They were pure commercial interests that are accessible to kids here as well. And I might add.. commercial things people tend to NOT want inside their neighborhood proper.

    Maybe some of these 'bored teens' could contribute and come up with their own actitivies the community could support.
     

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