Broadlands Hospital

So you didnt see any doctors or insurance reps?

 

You are sort of correct the section of ashburn village drive has to be widen also for there to be an operational traffic light. Yep the widening of waxpool is two years away like I said for completion if all goes well And we all know how that is around here But the real problem is the lower part of waxpool to 28 with no alternatives because there is no money and now that kincora is dead there goes gloucester unless an miracle happens. So when you get your hospital and you are driving down that new section of belmont after spendings hours getting there from the major traffic jams below on waxpool and toward dc. at least you can enjoy they lightly traveled new road that is not needed before making improvements to waxpool.

Still haven't hear an reasonable explanation for the two tracts of land the hospital is setting aside for??? instead of redesigning the site and redistribute that land into a real buffer between the existing homes and the hospital.

So what are they saying Cliff in the back board rooms of the hca hospital about the real potential uses of that two large tract land, beyond the final build out?????? I think we should all know what are the real potential sleeping dogs that lie ahead for that land Are we to believe they are odd type buffers????

Lee j

Lee j

 

Lee-
As I told you AND POINTED OUT TO YOU ON THE PLANS, the one four acre parcel, which is the closest parcelof land near the houses, will be designed and developed as an HOA USE that will NOT be built on.
The other area, which is along Bemont Ridge Road, I don't know. Could it be developed in the future? Quite possible. It is also the farthest away from the residential area.
Hate to disappoint you, but I don't spend time in anyone's board rooms. I do something that is obviously foreign to you........I get up and work to find out information.

 

Yes, I know I am correct. Nice job trying to save face. You had no clue when that project was slated to be done.
You further demonstrate an incredible amount of ignorance about roads by referring to Belmont Ridge as "lightly traveled."
I seriously doubt Kincora is dead.

 

I think it would bring in 300 positions in just nursing alone. Many more in ancillary, support, clerical, and management.

 

Here you go Cliff, and I am not here to have a war with you but I do get my information from knowledgeable sources and below is What I posted on June 1 2007 at from way back when on June 1 2007 at 9:32 pm
and the project managers name is Chuck Acker 703 777 0163
www.cacker@loudoun.gov who I was in contact with so I could report correct information back then not guesses or heresay Which was given to me at the may 2007 waxpool taskforce meeting at broadrun high school. What you like a copy of the plans also Cliff????

I have reported to these boards numerous times on this project. And here is something I also said on these boards that there are so many utilities that they are going to build a tunnel to put them into, so they will in the future have easy access to to add to them or repair them.

This was from an Steve Snow email to me and I posted it right here on these boardsand one of my many post on this topic

 

Not to derail this thread, but has anyone checked to see what the record for views and replies is? This thread has to have broken it.

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There were also several other threads about the hospital that gor started as well. Eventually, those ended and attention was focused to the bif two listed by Steve.

 

Clyde's decided to scale back due to budgetary constraints. There is a plan to add on but that is way in the future. The hospital will help sales, but they are very busy now anyway.

 

Thanks Steve!

 

This is an answer worth waiting for:

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Originally Posted by Brooks5
As for "predominantly," if 25% of the beds are for one service, and all of the other services (many more than 3) split the remaining 75%, it is, in my view, a facility that predominantly caters to that one service. But others can disagree.

Um, I disagree. Your implication is that this is predominately for mental health, but only 25% of the beds are allocated to that. That means that 75% are NOT allocated to mental health.

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Originally Posted by Brooks5
I guess the implication of having a psychiatric facility in the middle of a neighborhood are, well, having a psychiatric facility in the middle of a neighborhood.

This is a copout, Brooks. If you are going to bring this up, at least have the integrity to spell out exactly what the implications are. Otherwise, this is a disingenuous way to stir up fear.

You may have an entirely valid point and legitimate concerns, but we don't know until you provide specifics. So tell us exactly what the implications are, please.

 

Are they or are they not proposing a quarter of all the hospital beds for mental health admissions?

 

If they are, it's for child and adolescent mental health. I don't believe their current plan calls for any adult mental health services, regardless of their past plans.

However, 41 mental health beds sounds like an awful lot to me for a hospital this size (164 beds total). I'd be surprised if that's really their plan, so if anyone can confirm this that would be great. I tried emailing them but the email bounced. Perhaps I have the wrong address.

 

I'd also like to know the most common mental health disorders they would treat. Everyone has neighbors who suffer from depression and anxiety disorders. 10% of kids now have ADD or ADHD, not to mention ODD and OCD, which I believe are classified as mental health disorders.

I'd just like to paint a clear picture, rather than drumming up fear of mentally deranged people running through our neighborhoods (or as Lee said, criminals hanging out every weekend on our streets).

 

Good point, Steve, though I do know that some children with ADHD get admitted to hospitals for depression. So can anyone clarify who exactly would be being admitted to the hospital and any potential risks to the surrounding community?

It would be nice to have facts, evidence from other hospitals, etc. rather than using fear-mongering tactics.

 

I agree we should have the facts. The thing is...even if the fear of such a facility is unwarranted, the perception of danger could be very real to potential buyers of the homes that closley surround the facility.

 

[insert sarcasm]
A hospital with beds for mental health patients seems like a bad idea.
I for one would rather have the people with mental health issues not be able to go to a hospital and get treated. I think it would be much safer for everyone if they just let their problems fester...or if we shipped them far away from us as possible.

C'mon guys this is America. We don't want people to get help here and we sure as heck dont want to help anyone here.[/insert sarcasm]

 

From my experience -- and I'll admit it's somewhat limited -- pediatric and teenage mental health patients are hospitalized for anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, and a large number of teens for various types of body image problems, like bulemia and anorexia. Along with these I'm sure suicide ideation or attempts earns them an admission.

From a 2004 study: "Depressive disorders were the most common primary psychiatric diagnosis in hospitalized youth, accounting for 32% of mental illness hospitalizations among school-aged children and 56% among adolescents. In school-aged children, oppositional defiant disorder accounted for 38% of mental illness hospitalizations, and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and conduct disorder accounted for an additional 16%. Among adolescents, bipolar disorder accounted for 15% of mental illness hospitalizations and schizophrenia for an additional 8%."

It's an interesting study, which shows that while overall hospital admissions for illnesses in children and teens has decreased, the trend for mental health admissions among school-aged children has been increasing (relatively stable for adolescents, though primary diagnoses have been shifting). This follows on a study done in 2002 that showed 3 of every 4 emergency admissions for pediatric patients who were screened for mental illness were positive for some form if it, ranging from ADD/ADHD to depression, bipolar disorder, etc.

Link here: http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/158/8/781
and here: http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/psychnews;37/12/15

I can access more recent scholarly journal databases if anyone wants more research or info to support this. But I don't think we should be worried about crazed, psychopathic toddlers terrorizing the streets of Broadlands. :rolleyes3: