Broadlands Hospital

FWIW ... Inova is an amateur compared to UPMC here in Pittsburgh. While there are two other hospital groups here in the area, UPMC is the Godzilla amongst them. Not only has it the lion's share of the hospitals, it also has its own health insurance business, and makes a ton of money each year.

 

Hey you pro Hospital people for the BRMC what are you all so concerned about.
You have the votes to get it approved from the current BOS. Come on there are close ties to some BOS and HCA that go way back.




Scott York our county supervisor at large also has ties to HCA through his ex campaign manager Megan Descutner who is community Director of the BRMC for HCA and here is a quote from the minutes of a Loudoun County Board OF Supervisors February 5, 2001
"""""""Chairman York further moved that the Board of Supervisors approve the nomination of Megan Descutner of Sterling, Christine Stone of South Riding, and Robert Chirles, Director of Social Services, to serve on the Loudoun Mayors Healthcare Task Force. Seconded by Supervisor Towe.
Supervisor Burton applauded this effort and urged the group to keep in mind the real need in the rural area. He discussed the data that he and his wife had gathered regarding time traveled to area hospitals. He said that he would be glad to provide this data. “”"”"
the complete link is here to the minutes of the Loudoun County Board OF Supervisors February 5, 2001
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:8fa...










You got your hospital unfortunately a compromised one if the HCA really sticks to their concessions, and we will see if they really do. And a good many of the county residents will not be close to a hospital. And many residents will be very close to two hospitals. So this is not about building hospitals to serve and be close to as many residents as possible that are not near an hospital. It is about greed and greed on both sides. Not about giving as many residents as possible to be near an hospital. It is about a few residents to be close to two hospitals.
I am glad I don’t live across the street from this hospital and watch my home values fall because of it. It is a shame medical care is about special interest and not about the residents.

Come on why waste money on lawsuits lets just get to the vote from the BOS which is stacked in favor of HCA and get it over with. There is not a chance in hell it won't get approved the deck is stacked in favor of HCA and not the residents that don't live near a hospital in this county. Just the few that want to be close to two hospitals.
- Lee J

 

Anyone else see the full page BRMC ad in the March issue of Broadlands Community Newsletter? Nauseating.

 

Lee-
How do you see the vote going? Who in favor and who opposed?
The last time you mentioned the BoS vote, you were emphatic that it was no slam dunk and that it would probably be turned down again.
Why the change?
Just curious.

 

Ah, but they pay the HOA a premium for it. As does Inova's ad on the inside back cover.

 

Hey Cliff,

With both of these high-rent advertisers, our coffers should be FLUSH!!! :genius:Any chance of this success being reflected in a reduction in HOA fees?

Or do we need to get Silence on your tail :whip: about the evils of big government, even at the sub-division level?

 

You gotta love the free market and competition, eh?! Who said competition wouldn't be good for consumers?!

Thanks for the nod, Mr. Rogers, but I love subdivision government because it's responsive and cost-effective

 

[FONT=&quot]HCA [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Virginia[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Dismisses [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lawsuit Against [/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Loudoun’s Prior Board of Supervisors[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Will Re-Apply for Zoning Permit to Build [/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Broadlands[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Regional[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Medical[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Center[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Reston[/FONT][FONT=&quot], [/FONT][FONT=&quot]VA[/FONT][FONT=&quot], [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Wednesday, March 5, 2008[/FONT][FONT=&quot] – HCA Virginia today announced that it will dismiss its legal claims against [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Loudoun[/FONT][FONT=&quot]County[/FONT][FONT=&quot]’s prior Board of Supervisors for denying the company’s zoning request for Broadlands Regional Medical Center (BRMC). That court case had been scheduled for trial beginning Monday, March 10, in Loudoun County Circuit Court.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In addition, the company announced plans to re-submit its zoning request to build the 164-bed hospital in Ashburn. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“This action gives the Board an opportunity to evaluate our application without pre-conditions or the pressure of looming litigation,” said Margaret Lewis, President of HCA’s Reston-based Capital Division. “We look forward to a fair and impartial review of our application. Our objective remains unchanged: to bring the county a hospital it supports and needs, and to improve healthcare access for all.” [/FONT]

 

hey why can't BOTH hospitals be built- BRMC and on Rt 50...? sorry if that's a dumb question...

 

Don't get too excited here cliff the school board said tonight the largest growth in loudoun in their fight for the budget is dulles south not where you are saying. Then we have York with his powerful connections to HCA saying this hospital should of or could of been already under construction. And cliff with your friendship to miller and and on one of his committees as well as erica and all your editorials all over the place makes one wonder even though miller said he has not made up his mind tonight. hmmmmmmm and if you or erica have problem with this erica already has my attorneys phone number which I gave her in an private email.

Hopefully york will excuse himself and I take miller at his word but the school people said this evening the biggest growth is dulles south .

 

You can. It is an Invoa fallacy - there apparently isn't enough of a population TODAY for a hospital on Rt. 50, but there sure will be soon. Don't forget your math too, even with a doubling of hospital beds if BRMC is approved, the County is still underserved. There is need on Rt. 50, Leesburg, Purcellville, etc. Don't fall for Inova's story on this - it isn't accurate.

 

Interesting story about this and according to this article perhaps the need for the BRMC is over blown. hmmm

http://www.leesburg2day.com/articles/2008/03/05/news/fp612brmc030508.txt

 

Lee-
I explained my opinion of development growth patterns on the other thread. You have yet to ever show anything that refutes it. Hmmmm...............
You have previously indicated that despite the fact that I know Stevens, he would be a hard sell for the hospital. What's changed? Hmmmm..................
Do you have any proof or evidence od Scott York's "powerful ties" to HCA? Or, as usual, are you speaking with no facts to support your comments? Hmmmmm.............

 

Here is one of yorks powerful connections to HCA my favorite is the minutes here where Megan Descutner who is community Director of the BRMC for HCA and here is a quote from the minutes “”"”"Chairman York further moved that the Board of Supervisors approve the nomination of Megan Descutner of Sterling, Christine Stone of South Riding, and Robert Chirles, Director of Social Services, to serve on the Loudoun Mayors Healthcare Task Force. Seconded by Supervisor Towe. Supervisor Burton applauded this effort and urged the group to keep in mind the real need in the rural area. He discussed the data that he and his wife had gathered regarding time traveled to area hospitals. He said that he would be glad to provide this data. “”"”" the complete link is here http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:8faWMjyeVG4J:inetdocs.loudoun.gov/archive/bosarch/docs/bosminutes_/businessmeeting_/2001minutes_/02052001/02052001.doc+Megan+Descutner+scott+yo


The fact the school people last night said the major growth in the county is dulles south especially rt 50 corridor contradicts you saying it is Broadlands area. I believe the school board would know.

And it is interesting you were bouncing all over the place with editorials right before Miller made last nights motion. You even used happy faces when you commented on my comments had not seen that in a long time or were you defensive against my comments like in the past yesterday hmmmm What did Cliff really know before Millers announcement??? hmmmmm Burke the other attorney on the BOS said it would be a big mistake to stop this litigation as it could come to haunt us Later.

 

At least Cliff doesn't post the same information over and over and over again in many, many, many different blogs/forums.

In the LoudounExtra blog alone you had to mention "double hospital/healthcare" about a dozen times in just a 2 day period.

IMO, you get fixated on a "catch-phrase of the day" and continually repeat it like it is a life mantra... that is until the next "catch-phrase" comes along".

Lee, you gain NO credibility when you continually repeat yourself and try to shove your opinion down the throats of others.

Just an opinion. Peace!

 

Lee-
Did you know that Ms. Descutner did not go to work for HCA until after she worked on the Healthcare Task Force? Are you aware she has a career in Nursing that qualified her to be on the Task Force? Yes, she worked for Scott York's campaign which would explain how he knew her. Scratch that conspiracy theory.

So, Lee, answer my question: If the School Board comment must be treated as gospel about growth, without research, question or challenge, then they must be right about the school budget. Correct? I stand by the numbers i've presented. Still waiting for you to show anything.

As far as my posting of the BRMC press release, I received that email from someone. I called HCA and asked if it okay for me to post it and was told yes. I received the email at 8:27pm. I wasn't even aware of the BoS meeting last night. I was in Cleveland from Monday until 4:30pm yesterday, was at a Modification Subcommittee meeting from 6:45pm-8:10pm. I had no contact with Mr. Miller about any of this.

Your little conspiracy theories and attempts to impugn others with insinuations is not only insulting, but makes you look like a worse buffoon than your posts usually do.

Stick to drawing your pretty pictures. As I've said before, it suits you well.

 

http://www.leesburg2day.com/articles...brmc030508.txt

So Loudoun doesn't need another hospital because we can go to Reston, Fairfax and Fair Oaks instead?

Wouldn't it be better to have another hospital closer to home?

 

Cliff,

With whom do you have such an intimate relationship at HCA that you could call them after 8:27 PM. And why would you feel the need to check with them, but not with your HOA BOD?

Someone had to beat Lee to the punch!

 

Dear Neighbors,

Thanks for using this forum, and others, to express your views on the HCA proposal. As a Broadlands resident myself, I'm glad to be able to bring a community perspective to the question, and I am grateful that my immediate neighbors are doing the same in a public setting.

I'd also like to say that Cliff Keirce has been my friend for several years, and that I have never known him to be less than honest and ethical in all things. When he tells you he had no special access to information from me, you can believe him. Moreover, I did not know myself that HCA had agreed to this disposition of the case until late yesterday afternoon.

If and when HCA submits a new application, I'll ask Cliff to arrange for a community forum at the Nature Center, so I can talk with all of you face to face. I have promised to keep an open mind about all applications, with the requirement that no one should be allowed to establish a new use in a residential community unless I am persuaded they will be good neighbors. The voices of existing residents will be the first I want to hear from, in making that determination.

Best,
Stevens Miller
Dulles Supervisor