Broadlands Hospital

PLEASE!!! You know you posted what you did because you had further intent in mind.

And YES, after reading this post, it does make me feel better!

And you should blow your own nose first, before calling anyone SNOTTY!

 

I doubt it.

KTDID - you appear to make your personal judgements based based on stupid forum postings and how you INTERRUPT emotion into a post.

And you want to question someon's character. SAD!

 

um yes quite a few of us know the pea - including T8erman. We adore her crazy ways...

 

Lee -
Just as in the on the Blognetnews.com website, you don’t know what you’re talking about here EITHER.

Both hospitals DO NOT give good care. I’m an ex-hospital admin. I've researched this. Trust me…the data does NOT bear that out. My wife is still a health care provider who sees patients at these two hospitals. INOVA Loudoun is NOT the hospital you want to go to if you're ill. These hospitals are rated...by payers, by the health department, by Medicare. Spend a little less time looking at girly pictures and more time doing real research. It's out there... you seem to spend plenty of time on the Internets.

With all due respect...something tells me you wouldn’t know good health care if it jumped up on your face and wiggled around a bit. You think if they didn't kill you, you got good health care. While that's paramount, it's not all of it.

I'll state my case clearly and plainly so you can understand. Having the Broadland's HCA hospital would be a great thing. I'm less pro-HCA than I am anti-INOVA. I've dealt with both systems professionally. I'll take HCA HANDS DOWN. INOVA's been the bully of Northern Virginia healthcare for years. No one likes competition but most will raise to the challange and do it better. Not INOVA. They'll pull out every dirty little trick in the book to maintain their kingdom. Life's not treating them too well. They're seeing expansion from the East out of the District... Valley Health is rapidly working it's way down the I-66 corridor. UVA's coming out of the South West through Culpepper.

Like I said...they can put it in my backyard, as well as the Metro station. I think you're simply wrong when you say property values will decrease. Especially since you can't back up what you say with anything other than vapid conjecture, ill-informed, poorly medicated opinions and simple pee-pee, ca-ca.


- Buffettbassman

 

Forgot this last piece...I'd rather have the hospital than a new Catholic Church like the one they're building in my backyard.

 

T8, what are you psychic? Maybe you think everyone has mal intent because you yourself think that way. As for knowing a person I think their posts can be very revealing about character. So before you jump on the bandwagon to crucify every poster you think has some kind of motive, stop and think it through before hitting the submit button.

 

Wow looks another one having a bad day, perhaps this hospital should put back in the mental ward looks like many of you are going to need it. I am Catholic by the way well at least growing up But they are not building a hospital in your backyard are they?????

Get the hospital built quick because it needs to make up the lost tax dollars when businesses start to move out at the 19% increase to 1.14 to the very close in Fairfax at .89 Of course we all know

As we see when something is this controversial and draws this much hate to others it usually means this is a very bad project for the well being of the residents. Good neighbor developments are never controversial. It will be interesting how this all plays out. I don't see any effort like this going in to help those poor people that are going to lose a ton of trees by Van Metre's new building hmmmmm I guess they don't live next to these projects so why care.

 

KTdid - I actually know quite a few posters here who I disagree with.

Based on Lee's posts, I would think he is a raving lunatic, but I know Lee and I don't think anything of the sort. He is a good soul and passionate on many subjects. I will banter, pick on and make fun of his POSTS, but Lee seems to really care (about what, I have know idea - Al Czervik, Caddyshack). Lee is much better expressing his opinions in voice than in written words.

Based on your posts alone you seem to be a nice person who loves animals. IMHO, you are much more direct and combative (yes, you are ) based on your posts with regards to the hospital. It is a touchy subject to many, and obviously stronger opinions come out.

I would recommend that you not try to read so much emotion and subterfuge into these posts. I will try to follow my own advice.

Sincerely, thank you for your tears for my beloved Buddy!

Take care.

 

I am Catholic and I DO go to that Chruch...I don't want it in my backyard. They're not building it in yours either.

You're missing the Cluetrain, here buddy. What "hate"? The stuff you sling around on the blogs? That kinda hate? Just because people are polarized against a project doesn't mean it a bad project. It's only bad if you're on the losing side of the project. If that's you're logic (cough, sputter), nothing would ever get build or done.

We Americans have this poorly formed illusion about what our rights should be vs. what they are. You don't have the right to decide who your neighbors are. You don't have the right to decide to privacy. I have a bound copy of the Constitution sitting here on my next next to the Declaration of Independence. No where...NO WHERE does it give you these rights. You barely have any right to own private real property...thank you SCOTUS!

In most cases, we're entitled to our opinions and nothing else. That's exactly why the courts are full of nonsense.

I'm not saying you shouldn't fight. There is only one place that I know of devoid of any arguments over development. That's the Moon. The next bus leaves soon. I brought you a ticket.

 

Those "poor" people still live in a great community and they will still have 30-40 yards of a wooded buffer.

Not many places I can think of that have retail/office space adjacent that can say that.

 

Jeez T8 do you have to say these nice things again. You are going to ruin my reputation Too bad you are going to miss my party, so I guess I will buy you a beer the next time I see you after your incredible Hawaiian vacation . I designed a home for someone very near the PrinceVille hotel you will be staying. But the project has been put on hold. Although they did build this incredible Japanese tea house right on the bluffs overlooking the pacific I have had many a drink in that tea house. OK I am again thinking about the good old days again


Buffettbassman why so hostile?? did I hit a nerve because I am correct??? then I apologize for hitting that nerve, but not what I strongly believe in. BTW one of my school projects was to design a small lunar city (colony)

If I would bet I would bet!!! the hospital will be built on that incorrect site!!! But since betting is still illegal in VA I will not bet. What are the pro hospital so worried about the deck is stacked in your favor on the BOS. So why go through the formality just vote on it and get it over with it save 4 or months worth of time to break ground.
I just want my words here to be forever on the internet when the expansion never ends with this hospital and the helipad eventually gets approved so we can use this as an example of what not to do for future projects.

Headlines for July 22 2008 the BOS approves the BRMC.

Now I think I am through here unless someone brings up my name negatively again

 

Just look at the posts on this board and you don't think it needs psychiatric ward??????

 

What is your point? Frankly your statement is hilarious and rich coming from you how many times have you made disparaging remarks about myself, Cliff a few elected officials, appointments etc? and you've never offered an apology for your caustic remarks. Nice.

If Mr Rogers deems my statement needs an apology (albeit he had already disclosed his id change on this very forum and then blew the doors open w/ a marching band via his post #1833) - I'll wait for him to make such request - vs. getting personal attacks/ demands from KT or NovaNative whom neither of which were the "outted" party.

 

The really well designed developments have a lot more

I am working on a office project right in another city and state that is across the street from high end residential and you would think these offices buildings were mini mansions great transition from the residential to office.

I am hoping to do one something like it here in Loudoun to be used as a prototype to show how to transition from commercial to residential beautifully and non controversially With enough thought to design you can transition between uses without upsetting people and make it a win win. It is being done all over this country but Loudoun is a bit behind the times, it is now time to catch up in the planning area.

 

Because I have never said anything disparaging about your appointments as a matter of fact I said you and Cliff would do a good job. You guys throw the book at me and most of the time I just take it, until lately.

 

Here's another example.

HCA had it's preapplication meeting with county staff scheduled. This is a private meeting and not open to the public. An Inova employee and a few attorneys got to the room first and camped out. They were advised by county staff that the meeting was not open and asked to leave. They refused. When HCA folks arrived, rather than make a scene, they allowed the Inova people to stay.
This is the type of bullying, chicken doodoo behavior they are known for.

In case I have a few of my facts wrong, I'm sure Donna Fortier can correct them since she was the employee there.

 

It's going to take me a few days to go through all your post - so I can refresh your memory about your disparaging remarks about me and your "good buddy" cliff. But for now I have to get ready for a dinner party and put the lil pea down. I'll be happy to post your own words to refresh your memory.

 

Interesting story in the Wall Street Journal:

Nonprofit Hospitals, Once For the Poor, Strike It Rich


By John Carreyrou and Barbara Martinez
Word Count: 2,530
Nonprofit hospitals, originally set up to serve the poor, have transformed themselves into profit machines. And as the money rolls in, the large tax breaks they receive are drawing fire.
Riding gains from investment portfolios and enjoying the pricing power that came from a decade of mergers, many nonprofit hospitals have seen earnings soar in recent years. The combined net income of the 50 largest nonprofit hospitals jumped nearly eight-fold to $4.27 billion between 2001 and 2006, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of data from the American Hospital Directory. AHD, an information-service company, compiles data that hospitals report ...



So much for the "caring for the poor" arguments!!

 

And I will be happy to post yours and do I have permission to post some of your private emails to me???????

 

Then tax the hell out of those non profits that will teach them the real lesson won't it. Besides we need the taxes we are going to lose because businesses may not want to move here or even leave here expect hospitals. Do hospitals know something we don't that there are going to be a huge increase for the need for medical care around here. Something in the dirt or water we don't know about.

I agree tax INOVA you should work on that as hard as you do this.