Broadlands Medical Facility

Cliff, such sage advice! But the posts in the last several pages help me fall asleep at night.

 

Cliff:

Thanks for posting this. It shows that we really do have competition and that you were more than adequately served by a hospital less than 15 mins away. We had visitors here last summer whose daughter broke her arm falling off a swing. We elected to go to Loudoun Hospital, were treated quickly and professionally, and her arm has healed perfectly. We have also used Reston Hospital and had good care there as well. It's great that we have several choices.

 

Jeanne:

Is this the same HSANV report that recommended against the BRMC?

 

It's a different report, but the same HSANV.
This is the same HSANV that has never, I repeat never, supported ANY HCA request. They even voted against the expansion of Reston hospital. That recommendation was also not followed by the state.
This is also the same HSANV that has members, in public hearings, who state that they openly despise HCA.
No there's a good neutral impartial panel!!

 

Cliff, that could factor in to the whole mess that HCA went through with Medicare: I lived in Arlington when Virginia Hospital Center (then Arl Hospital) formed, and then dissolved, its joint venture with then-Columbia/HCA. That occurred during the time period leading up to the fraud mess, but healthcare professionals/organizations may have been leery then, because Arlington made a big deal about entering a joint venture instead of forming a partnership.

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

All time waste discus hospital! No body listen. We lose, big company win, not care about community. Always how happen. Atleast not got as bad as Ashburn Farm. They now build Car Wash. How worse can happen! That like have trash in front yard! Glad not to live there!

 

A car wash is bad for a community? Dang, please stop!

Broadlands has a car wash at the Mobil station, so I guess you are not happy to live here also.

And I would like to know how we lose if we get a state-of-the-art hospital in our community?

 

I really don't see how any one can say that BRMC doesn't care about the community. They have listened to the community concerns and tried to fix any that could be. They are providing more of a buffer then required and certainly more than an office building would. They have worked w/VDOT to make a seperate ambulance entrance of the highway away from the houses. Relocated the helopad to the back of the property away from the houses and is willing to use the small parcel of land that LHC/Donna/Tony said they would put a "nightclub" on into something natureistic for the community to enjoy and use. You can say you don't want the hospital in the back yard but saying they don't care...that's simply not true.

 

I agree with T8erman. Here's a quote from the Broadlands HOA Forum Rules:

"These forums are available for use by the residents of the Broadlands to ask questions about life in the Broadlands, such as homeowner questions about their house, questions about landscaping, questions about the pools, etc... These forums are provided as a service for the residents of the Broadlands and it is not considered a right to be able post here..."

If Barbara, from South Riding, wants to debate BRMC, let her do it on other Internet forums where anyone interested can debate her and post there. Let's keep our Broadlands HOA forums to the stated purpose -- "a service for the residents of the Broadlands."

 

Let's not go here. We've been through this before, and there are several threads arguing/discussing/ratifying the fact that anyone can join these forums and post to them. BRMC is certainly an issue that would be relevant to "life in the Broadlands."

If you don't want to know what others in the county think about BRMC, don't read this thread. Let's not advocate censorship, though. And for the record, I am generally in favor of BRMC. I just don't think that we should be going down the path towards excluding opposing viewpoints.

 

GCyr: As I said to T8erman a few pages ago, I stick to this thread because it is a matter of county interest.

Thank you Pats Fan for bringing up discussion, whether one agrees or not. You tend to support. A strict reading of Dang.Yu.Hyung's opinion would seem to indicate he doesn't. SoxFan apparently does.

I read the rules before I joined, and I followed the discussions on AFGM when he joined. I'm sure (particularly after the Chris thing) that if I behave in any way that violates the rules, I'll get bounced pretty quick and will not be allowed to join again. And that comes with the territory because the rules are right there to be read at the get-go.

GCyr, the hospital is a regional service, and people are debating it a lot of places. It affects your community most directly, and in ways it does not affect anyone else. But if planning and location of facilities is a major part of the argument, it affects many more people than the residents of any one or two subdivisions.

If you don't want to talk to me, you're free not to. I find it interesting that a new line of conversation in which I was not participating became an opportunity to say I shouldn't be here. But until the rules change or I break them, here is where I may sometimes be. And while I may appear to attack issues or information, I will not attack you or your community. Because the issue is what it's about. Right?

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

I'm not debating whether BRMC is regional (which it is) -- just that this is a Broadlands HOA forum and you are monopolizing this forum with South Riding issues and concerns and your views.

I'm also not attacking you or your community, but I just don't believe that these should be discuss in this forum. Why not take your discussions to an Internet forum and tell all who want to participate where it is?

 

GCyr, How come you never asked AFGM to leave? How is he different than Barbara??
...because he is on the Pro Hospital side?

 

Hello again SK8R. I recall AFGM got asked to leave a lot, so turnabout is fair for me.

GCyr: There are 8 general forum categories, with a total of 1183 active topics. I've posted in two of those topics (this + restaurants, to tell AFGM I'd e-mailed him), for a total of .16 of 1% participation.

If we only count the 384 topics in the general category these two are contained in, it jumps me up to .5 of 1% participation.

There have been a total of 15,373 posts to these two threads, and my 38 total posts (not including this one) count for .24 of 1% of the total volume in the two threads.

What definition of monopoly are you referencing? Perhaps it is one with which I am unfamiliar.

(JOKE ALERT!!!)



Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Sorry--just double checked--15373 is the reads/hits, so I'm less than one percent of the visits. Total of 694 posts in 2, so 38 = 5.47% posting. Does that qualify for a monopoly after all?

Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.

 

Sometimes? Here we go with another fresh gallon of gas to throw on the fire. I had hoped with the banishment of Chris that the flammable rhetoric had been extinguished. We're now at 40 pages and counting with no end in sight. As has been referenced before, one has to look upon this thread with amusement lest we'd all go nuts. If that's the end game here then the BRMC can't be built soon enough.

 

"Flammable rhetoric?" Are you serious? How can you possibly compare the discussion in this thread to that of the previous hospital threads? IMO there is no comparison. Barbara has borne the brunt of numerous snide comments and other remarks and has responded professionally to all of them. Do you think "chris et al." would have held "her" tongue? Hardly. Let's get some perspective.

Look, I frankly don't care about all of the local politics at play between several of the posters on this thread. And I don't have the time or the inclination to read Barbara's tomes. So I don't -- just like you don't have to, either. At least now, the forums are civil. And the hospital issues are confined to this one thread, unlike before, where we had several ("Evil HCA," "HCA trying to kill my baby," "Why hasn't Van Metre updated its website," blah, blah, blah).

 

From my perspective of perhaps reading too closely between the lines, I still see a fair amount of backbiting and baiting- I would still term it inflammatory. As far as what "Chris" spewed, that was just pure bilgewater. And, thanks for the suggestion, but I'll read what I want to read.

 

Why when person say some thing you not like yuo ask be ban? I not think hospital good for here, my opinoin, why you want ban any one who think that? People here think got ban any one not like hopsital.

There more important thing than support hospital! Like we need safe intersection with trafic light, it promised be done by last spring but nobody even talk about in last two newsletter! Why that importent not any more.

Instead of ban people, why not respect views not that yours. I not care who afgm chris. They not post here more thankingly. Why all people talking them all time, never stop? This they website? You act like is! Maybe that what they want and they win and laugh you.

Also talk walk with grand kid this night before dark and not see missing cat. Hope find soon! Good night.

 

So, you don't like what you are reading, but you're going to continue reading it and complaining about it. Makes a lot of sense.

You know, when my 2-year old tells me that it hurts when he does something, I tell him "don't do it." He seems to get it...