Greenway Toll Increase Update

That's the email I'm talking about! It's pathetic....

 

I think it generates a lot more than $123,500.00 / day.

The last report said that the toll road has 65,000 trips a day. I'm wondering if that is '65,000 toll transactions a day' or '65,000 cars going from one end and out the other'.

I'd bet the average 'trip' is about $4, especially when trucks can pay as much as $20 for one toll plaza. That would be $260,000 a day.

If a trip is someone going from Leesburg to DC and hits both toll plazas in the morning and both in the afternoon (4 toll plaza hits = 1 'trip') then the $ is much more.

65,000 'trips' doesn't sound bad. Half a million dollars collected a day does. I'd try and spin it too if I was in charge!

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I actually called the SCC and spoke with Deborah V. Ellenberg when the decision was announced several weeks ago to voice my disgust. She informed me that the information provided by the owners of the Greenway showed the need for an increase in tolls. I informed her that it was hard to believe that they are not making money...and asked if she ever sat in the backups to get onto the Greenway in the morning/evening. Of course not... she lives in RICHMOND! During my conversation, I asked her what would happen if the company files for bankruptcy... would the road go to the state???? She wasn't too confident with her answer, "I guess so."

I'm still waiting to hear back from Scott York as I asked him the same question and he is researching the answer.

So, if that is the answer... Current owners file bankruptcy... VDOT assumes ownership... what happens next? No more toll increases????

As far as I am concerned they (Greenway) lost my business... greedy little donkeys!

 

GRRR! Anger rising.....

I just wrote 7 on Your side about this. I think it's time for the media to step up.

 

I just found this on the Greenway website.

"Dulles Greenway CEO Michael Crane is enthusiastic about surpassing the $500,000 mark in bonus check payments to VIP customers. "When we started this program five years ago, never did I imagine that it would be this successful. Customer loyalty is so important to us, and the VIP Miles program is our way of thanking our customers."

Customer loyalty????

$500,000 to VIP customers????? Wonder how many customers that is????

 

I would bet that "trip" is defined as one payment at the toll. It would be nearly impossible to track every car and see if it hits the tollway twice. The only way that could work is if everyone used SmartTag, which isn't the case.

 

I'm a VIP customer. I dont remember seeing any big refund. Lies! I say, Lies!

 

If I recall, the developers of the Greenway toll road are also linked to other state projects. If anyone has the connections and time, I think it would be useful to also request full disclosure on State contracts involving these individuals (and thier subsidiaries) and sources of funding as well as voting records of our representatives on these matters. I'd do it, but I plan to sit in traffic and wont have the time.

-scott

scott shipm

 

My wife uses it twice a day. Maybe I ought to look for that check. But $72 dollars big whoop! I'd rather they put in distance base tolls that way half of $3.00 is $1.50 less than the current toll.

 

Yep. I still think they're liars - maybe not about VIP but about going to the SCC - "Wah! We're not making our money back fast enough! We need to raise rates so by 2031 we can make 400% profit - Wah!"

 

Are you talking about more cops on the Greenway? I have noticed a bunch of undercover cop cars lately, not that I advocate speeding, but it sucks if this is the overall new trend. More money, more cops and more traffic. Hence why I am looking to find work closer to home.

I really wish they would do distance tolls.

 

Dude, I'm going to do #3 but it's still wrong, which you agree with. #3 would'nt be so bad if there was another way to get west w/o using Waxpool or 7. The traffic management plan here is to just let the developers build and hope they connect the streets when they build a new neighborhood. If traffic is this bad now, how bad do you think it will be in five years? The Greenway is a major road and needs to be usable by everyone not just the rich. I think the State has an obligation to look out for our interests which they clearly are not doing.

Does that .35 go to the Toll road if you don't go onto the Toll Rd and get off on 28?

 

If you exit from the Greenway onto 28, I believe the toll is 35 cents less.

 

7 and 50 are overburdened and now are going to get worse. My post already said this, did it not? Of course this gouging is by design and should not have been allowed to get this far.

Just because it is so does not mean it is right, ethical and should remain so. TRIP needs to be punished and so does the State. This area is going to implode if some of these people don't stop thinking about greed and start thinking about what's good for the area.

And the toll increase was unexpected. The original toll was high but bearable. This increase is just another slap in our faces. They're losing money, riiiighhht. If they are losing money then they don't know what they are doing and that is not our or the States problem. I wish the State would take it over.

Boycott the Toll Road.

 

How about we all share ways to avoid the Greenway/toll Road?

Here's one that has been mentioned before:
Belmont Ridge Rd (south)
L on Evergreen Mills
R on Gum Springs
L on Rt. 50 (to go East)
From Rt. 50 you can take a right on Pleasant Valley and that will take you to Braddock Rd. in Centreville.

Any tricks on an easy way to pick up Rt 7 past Ashburn?