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HOT Lanes

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by hberg, Jun 13, 2005.

  1. hberg

    hberg give me some of your tots

    Jan 23, 2003
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    Anyone know if this is taking place here? According to this article it is underway in D.C. area but I thought they were considering it and that it was not yet an established fact?

    "Concept spreads across U.S.
    And while it started in Southern California, here and in Orange County, the concept is coming to traffic jams in metropolitan areas all across the country. Minneapolis, Washington, D.C., Seattle and Denver are only a few of the places where similar projects are finished or close to completion. The concept is known variously as value pricing, managed lanes or HOT lanes, short for High Occupancy Tolls."

    Link to full article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8132296/
  2. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

    Feb 14, 2002
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    We need (better) mass transit. I didn't read the whole article, but what did the proceeds of the HOT lanes go towards? I also think they need to make getting a license not so easy... perhaps that would cut down on the idiot drivers.
  3. pamD

    pamD New Member

    May 15, 2004
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    From the Washington Post:

    "In April, state officials contracted with a private venture to build the region's first HOT lanes on a 14-mile stretch of the Capital Beltway. Officials in Maryland are sifting through proposals to build toll lanes on that state's portion of the Beltway, as well as on several other major highways."

    Guessing the tolls will go directly to financing the construction by private cos. (What a concept!) They are also looking at HOT for the 95/395 corridor.

    OT- I hope Metro can get it together by the time the rails reach Reston. If the cars continue to be hopelessly full and unreliable, Metro will never be an attractive option for me. I was sadly disillusioned by my subways experiences from Alexandria over the last few years.

    Unfortuately, I think a lot of the traffic problems come from the immigrant nature of this area -- people who got their license in different parts of the country have different ideas how traffic should work. Also, can a driving test measure selfishness? That seems to be the biggest problem...

    Pam D.
  4. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

    Oct 29, 2002
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    I don't think its agressive or 'mean' drivers are the problems.. its people who don't know how to drive with awareness of whats around them or how to drive in a busy environment.

    Not stopping at stop signs
    Failing to Yield
    Blocking traffic in the left lane (rather then using it for passing)
    Slowing down rather then speeding up on merge lanes
    Driving in blind spots
    Driving along side someone when not necessary

    None of those has to deal with drivers from other areas.. its pure lack of driver education. The other issues around inpatient drivers, etc are all problems too but don't consider those 'systematic' problems, just people problems... to be handled individually.

    I mean.. some of these people would DIE if they had to drive on roads in other areas.. like I-83 in York, PA.. NO shoulders.. NO merge lanes.. 2 lanes only.. and drives 60+mph. But it works for the most part because people know to speed up when entering the highway.. not slow down.. people on the road know to move if they can to allow people to merge.. etc.

    And for the idiots here that like to sneak through on stop signs when the person in front of you goes.. or make right hand turns from the second lane to avoid the line.. etc.. I hope you get yours.


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