New Hospital Rt 50 annouced

http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/news/2007/dec/19/rehab-center-proposed-route-50/?latest

Cliff you better get on the ball if there will be any hope of a hospital in the Broadlands

HealthSouth announced this morning it filed a certificate of need application with the Virginia Department of Health to build a 40-bed hospital on Route 50 in the Stone Ridge Village Center. In determining whether to issue the certificate, the state will look at the public need for the hospital, along with other criteria and factors.

With Leesburg and landsdown and reston down the road and now this one how many hospitals do we need here???? Look at fairfax county and how large an area reston hospital serves. And now we are getting potential hospitals all over the place severing a smaller population and area. This will be interesting as this plays out. Personally Lansdown Leesburg and rt 50 is all we need and with reston just a few minutes down the toll road and all the urgent cares perhaps someone thinks this small a population is in for a major health crisis. Could it be they are building for the future when the school board breaks everyone with their astronomical budgets and everyone starts to crack up and get seriously ill.

Lee j

 

Lee, this is for a rehab hospital. Apples and oranges when compared to Inova or HCA.

 

40 beds? That's nothing.

 

Actually if you read the whole article they plan to build a full blown hospital in due time.

Think of it as a diamond, Reston hospital on the bottom point and leesburg on the top and rt 50 and landsdown on the sides.

Seriously how many hospitals do we need around here???? If your injury is serious enough you are life fighted to where you can get the best care and reston hospital is really not that far away if you drive.

Lee j

 

Ummmm..... Middleburg?

I dunno - just thinkin' out loud.

 

I don't know why but this new battle of the hospitals reminds me in a funny strange way what happened to the Broadlands rec center and it got voted down. Hopefully some lessons in marketing your ideas and names are learned from that even tho I do believe the rec center was voted down because cost in these tight fiscal times. But if you other people think it was because of the name then think about what the name Broadlands hospital means to others outside of the broadlands. Makes you think hmmmmmmmm

Lee j

 

Totally different COPN process sharse. 40 beds for rehab is certainly nothing to sneeze at for rehab, but it is totally different than the COPN HCA owns for the Broadlands Hospital. Apples to oranges.

 

If you're really interested in details, as Donna, she works for Inova and probably can back me up on this.

 

Lee-
Yes, they MAY build a hospital there.....10-15 years from now. Both Inova and HCA have commented that there is no need for one there now. And the Dulles South CPAM that would have led to a population density to support one was shot down.
BRMC will be built now.

Before you decide to comment that we don't need another hospital, look into some statistics and see if they support your claim. Such as
What is the National Average of hospital beds per 1000 residents? What is Virginia's, Northern Virginia's, and Loudouns?
What is the percentage utilization of the beds in Loudoun?
What percentage of Loudoun residents travel outside of Loudoun for hospital care?
What happens to the quality of care when one system is virtually a monopoly? What are the benefits of competition?
Where is the population epicenter of Loudoun County? Where was it 5 years ago, and where is it today?

 

I'm personally biased in favor of the building BRMC for a number of reasons but would love more info on the BRMC hospital, do we know what the timeline is for this project, or is there a way to get more info?
I suppose at this point, it's still waiting for approval from the board of supervisors....

Thanks!

 

i'm against the hospital in the broadlands for many selfish reasons: emergency drivers speeding thru our neighborhood, medivac helicopters flying directly overhead in the middle of the night more than we already deal with, sirens in the middle of the night interrupting my beusty sleep, and perfectly wonderful services available 5 miles away- straight down Claiborne- in Lansdowne.

i don't know much about the arguments FOR the BRMC, but as a resident who will be here for 10 more years- i simply don't see the need and am willing to drive 5 miles for a hospital.

 

Personally I support an additional HCA in Loudoun, INova has too much of a monopoly and numbers do not lie.

Our county has nearly doubled the population since 2000 and our growing need for MORE hospital beds is horribly lower than the national average.

I think there are valid issue to support or not to support BRMC, but again numbers do not lie and the numbers indicate LoCo needs more hospital beds.

 

good to know info Erica- so I support more beds, no monopoly, just literally- NIMBY!

 

If everybody said NIMBY it would never get built!
An acquaintance of mine said the solution is simple if you don't want a hospital built on that land -- buy the land. :rolleyes3:

I wonder if anyone here has lived near a hospital and can answer these points:
1. Emergency drivers speeding thru our neighborhood
2. Medivac helicopters flying directly overhead in the middle of the night
3. Sirens in the middle of the night
4. Perfectly wonderful services available 5 miles away

1 and 2 I can't speak for, except to say
1: you mean like every other driver around here?
2: I don't even notice the overhead aircraft any more so....

I would say 3 is a bit of a red herring -- I've lived near many places that have siren-blaring vehicles that do nothing of the sort in residential neighborhoods, especially when the roads are empty. Not near hospitals, but I have near police depots and fire stations. But the rules could be different here. I do know that ambulances have come into my neighborhood several times since I've moved here and I only noticed because of the lights, they never once set off the sirens.
I also agree that it's clearly different if you live near a road that is busy -- I used to live off Church Street in Sterling, and at least once a month we got woken up by sirens blaring down Church. But unfailingly when the siren-bearing vehicles turned up Magnolia into Dominion Station, they turned the sirens off. Claiborne may be a Church-Street-sized street, but I don't see it ever carrying large volumes of traffic. Maybe I'm just not around at the right times of the day.

And I think Erica addressed 4.

 

i've lived in 8 different homes in my life in the US, and in every one of my neighborhoods, the hospitals were NOT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. they were in areas near other businesses, near other services that benefit people who need medical care, i've always lived within 5-10 miles of a hospital, but never in my LIFE have I thought, hmmmm- know what my neighborhood needs? A hospital.

please educate me- i don't claim to know it all- and i would love to be convinced that we need to be able to walk to the hospital.

 

Well Loudoun hospital is not sitting a stones throw away from residences. I have had a medivac helicopters fly over my house twice in the last month because of serious accidents on waxpool and murder dr and I can tell you the were so loud you thought a 747 was about to crash into my house. I have a temporary fire station further from me then the hospital will be from the residences in the broadlands and the sirens from the emergency vehicles can be heard in my home day and night and it is all the time. As far as not in my backyard well blame some of the worst zoning for a major new county in the country. The nicest developments here are the puds done by private developers not by the county planning commissioners who love to recite by right every time garbage gets built which is becoming pentiful lately. With proper zoning you would not have a problem with NIMBY. THe hospital in the broadlands needs a special use permit and if we give that to them then were does it stop. We don't want any exceptions in the transition area yet will these new supervisors break there own campaign pledges and allow exceptions when it suits them.

Personally I could care less if the hospital is built or not, but it would be nice to have belmont widen from the greenway to brambleton. Personally they should find another piece of property off belmont that is not near any homes such as on the reservoir side of belmont or in the commercial district of moorefield or one of the other commercial developments going up along the greenway where this hospital is totally isolated by commercial and no residential. If we had decent county zoning with transitions between different uses that actually work we would not have these problems as much with nimby's.
It is all about the big picture first then on to the details.

Lee j

 

And I've worked in two that were, one of which I could have walked to on a nice day if I wanted some exercise. My mom has worked at one, and I could definitely name several more if I put my mind to it.

It really depends upon where you live. But hospitals do exist in residential areas.
- A

 

That's fine. People wouldn't consider that "IMBY" ?? The feeling I get from the naysayers on this topic -- in general, not in this thread specifically -- is that ANYWHERE is too close to build a new hospital. And I think that's so clearly wrong....

As for here in Broadlands? Well, I'm OK with them building it out on Belmont. Like I said, I'm in favor of it being built -- I'm not tied to a location.

 

okedoke then i guess it's not an unprecedented idea to have a hospital in a neighborhood- you win there.

guess when it's time to vote we'll see what happens...

 

Yes but you should not build one near homes when you don't have to and have to get a special exemption to do it. This county started with a clean slate and has the experience of many many years of terrible zoning around the country to learn from. Lets learn from what has not worked in the past in other places and do it the right way here. Seems many times around LOudoun we start from the details to build a big picture instead of the other way around.


Lee j