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New Mail-In Survey

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by chris, Dec 22, 2003.

  1. chris

    chris New Member

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    Did anyone else get yet another "survey" about the hospital? This time it comes directly from HCA. Surely someone will admit to a "little bias" in this survey.

    Anyway, I guess that HCA did not like the anit-hospital results of the HOA-sponsored survey, so they made up their own.

    I have kept every item of mail that HCA has sent me about this hospital, and HCA's postage tab is now over $10.00 for our house alone!!! That does not include the design, lay-out, production, and labor costs associated with a mailing. What a total waste!
     
  2. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Chris,

    I am not following you. You conclude $10 is an exorbitant amount to spend.

    What happened to all the criticism launched at the HOA for their survey. I recall suggestions like, the survey should have been done by a 3rd party professional, the survey should have be sent certified mail, the survey should be counted by an outside interest, etc. etc.

    If these suggestions were followed I am certain the costs would have exceeded $10 per person.

    For credibility, have you also kept everything LCH send to you? Have you calculated their total costs?

    Seems hypocritical to view both efforts differently.

    Additionally, how are you jumping to the conclusion that the HOA is responsible for this new survey? More hyperbole!? At least, these posts are consistent.

     
  3. chris

    chris New Member

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    I think that $10 multiplied by everyone in Lo. Co. who has received these mailings is a lot of money that could be better spent on charity care or treating patients.

    Third=party surveys are not that expensive, dude. Any way, I said that the HOA could have chosen to do things the right way. They did not. Case closed.

    I have never received any propaganda from Loudoun Hospital. They know where I live, though, because I've gotten mail about bills. They know where I live, but they don't harass me with daily propaganda. I like that!:)

    I never suggested that the HOA was involved with this effort! Dude, you have to learn how to read. If you actually look back at my post, you will see that I said that HCA must not have liked the results of the HOA's survey.

    Finally, you never told us whether you are a Broadlands resident and what your handle means. I wonder why.
     
  4. luvmyredslk320

    luvmyredslk320 New Member

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    I got that survey also. We've been surveyed to death about this issue. I don't follow this issue too much, but didn't the planned facility get voted down recently?
     
  5. chris

    chris New Member

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    So, you think that HCA would be in the best position to conduct an un-biased survey?

    Also, is there a reason that you did not respond to the questions that I and others have raised about your living in the Broadlands? That must be a sore topic!?!
     
  6. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    I did not get a survey from HCA. What is this about?

    Some of you peeps need to take a take a chill pill, if you will, for real.
    You sound like little bickering children.
     
  7. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    I can understand some of the concern over hospital corporations spending money on advertising. In fact, I don't think I've opened any of the 4 local papers in the past year or so without seeing huge ads from LHC explaining why we don't need more hospital services and why they are the best and only hospital needed in Loudoun County. If only they spent those millions on patient health care.......
    Oh, and I have received numerous glossy cards and advertising letters from LHC. I guess the "anti" folks don't notice those. I received one just last week.
    Regarding our HOA survey, we did it as advertised, as promised, the right way, and have not received a single complaint (other than anonymous forum posts.) Case closed.
     
  8. chris

    chris New Member

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    Cliff, I just said that HCA must not have liked the results that you came up with, so they are deciding to do their own. I think that is a total slap in the face to the HOA and shows how HCA has *no* respect for the residents of the Broadlands.
     
  9. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    spin spin spin spin spin
     
  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Chris-
    I truly doubt the HOA survey has any bearing whatsoever on HCA's advertising/mailing campaign. This is the second time they have sent out that flyer/ad/survey. The first time was about a year ago.
    The true slap in the face to Loudoun and Broadlands residents is LHC's attempt to keep needed hospital/medical care out of the county.
     
  11. Donna

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    Let me clarify something that seems to be getting overlooked. Loudoun Hospital wants more healthcare in the community, hence the cornwall location. They do not want a competiting hospital that is 5 minutes away competing for the same patients, same doctors, etc. Why dont you ask HCA why they are having the same fight in Richmond and I believe also in Tenn. where they are appealing the verdict of a competing hospital from coming in across the street. They know it will be the demise of LCH, if they didnt they wouldnt be having the same fight on their hands.
     
  12. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    Huh, what? I didn't get a survey!!!
     
  13. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Donna,

    If LHC is so interested in health care services for citizens of Loudoun County, and as you say, "they do not want a competing hospital that is 5 minutes away competing..." how do you answer the following?

    Why is LHC attacking the attempted increase in health care services for the residents of Purcellville?

    Winchester's Valley Health systems is attempting to enter the County and provide services to the Western part of the County. LHC pre-emptively attacked this effort and is using it's political and marketing machine to stop it. This facility is way west of the current LHC facilities.

    I think this paranoid action is a laser shot into the corporate minds of LHC. How illuminating. Don't you?

    I'll tell you what I think, LHC's action is undeniable evidence that LHC wants a monopoly on all healthcare within Loudoun. This issue is about LHC wanting to control the services and fees that are provided to all of us. LHC is just like any other money making organization.

    What do you think Home Depot would do if they were the only organization in town providing home improvement products and services? Service would decrease, innovation would cease, and prices would escalate.

    Full story at:

    http://www.leesburg2day.com/current.cfm?catid=28&newsid=8173



     
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    GCyr New Member

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    Although this was snipped from Donna's post, others have mentioned LHC being "5 minutes" away. Exactly what route does one take to get to LHC within 5 minutes? Also, at what speed does one have to travel? [?]


     
  15. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    I think she meant five miles
     
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    It is approximately six miles from the Community Center. The various "directions" sites on the internet compute the travel time at around 17 minutes (observing speed limits, etc.) via either Waxpool to Asburn Road or Ashburn Village Boulevard. When Claiborne is complete to Route 7 (near the current Asburn Rd, intersection) the time will probably drop to around 15 minutes (again, if you observe the speed limits, lights, stop signs, etc.). If "The first 20 minutes are the most critical"...don't count on getting there in those 20 minutes.
     
  17. GCyr

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    I don't read minds, so I asked the question based on what was posted. Believe others have quoted a 5 mile distance to LHC, so I wanted this point clarified.

    LHC in their latest ad uses a 5.5 mile distance between them and I presume the proposed BRMC location. And, I also presume those are "as the crow flies" miles -- not road miles, as provided in the previous post.


     
  18. Homer Simpson

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    Ever heard of an ambulance? Not everyone can live within one mile of a hospital!
     
  19. Donna

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    As you are aware I have worked for the last two years trying to keep HCA from building in our Broadlands community. During that time I have come to know many people at Loudoun Hospital Center. I have grown to respect and trust every individual I have ever met there and have established great friendships and working relationships with them. Recently a job opening was posted at LHC which matched my skills and I applied. I was selected for the final round of interviews, was offered a position and have accepted. My previous job kept me on the road too much, and I'm excited to have an opportunity to work for a first-class organization close to home. I'm proud to work in this new role with our community hospital. Because there has been so much misinformation about so many things related to HCA's attempt to build in our neighborhood, I wanted to be sure you heard directly from me about what I'm doing. Thanks, Donna
     

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