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Non-residents on Broadlands swim team

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by serendipity, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    You are right they do not need to do it here. But they do need to answer questions and when a member does not know when the meetings are it is hard to ask them at a board meeting. I have personally sent emails to this CSL board through the links on their website and have never received any response. If they were not responding to me as the rec committee do you think they are responding to anyone else?
    So now how do you purpose we get answers?

    Staci
     
  2. bird

    bird New Member

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    If only! The nominees for board positions are often picked by those already on the board, and there is usually only one nominee per open position on the ballot. Tell me, why are people hesitant to get involved? I believe it is because they are treated like outsiders, their input is not valued.
     
  3. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    You could lock (or change the locks) the gates to the competition pool before an event. Betcha someone gets a hold of someone very quickly! ;)

    Seriously (not that the above isn't an option), if it were me and the swim team board(s) will not do the proper and courteous thing to respond to queries from Broadlands officials, then I would suggest playing hardball. If that means yanking the pool from them, then a "pox on all their houses"!
     
  4. Chsalas

    Chsalas Active Member

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    I can't believe you have stood for this. Staci, you do alot of work on the pools rec committee, and if I got this kind of response from them I would pull the pools from them. I know, "whattta bout the kids" blah blah blah, well, kids gotta learn for every action (on inaction) there is a consequence. I think the Swim Team has gotten a lot of perks from the Broadlands rec committee, so they need to start working with you a little more.

    Agreed T8er
     
  5. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    Chsalas I agree with you and that is what I tried to do but the HOA board had a different opinion which is why I believe this subject became a forum topic to begin with.
    But on a positive note I have found out that the links on the website had been deactivated and thus the swim team board was not receiving my emails. They are in the process of correcting that problem.
    This is the reason that having this forum can be useful - people may not respond directly but it puts out information and problems can be uncovered

    Staci
     
  6. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    Yes that is an idea but how does that help the average member get in touch with a board member they do not have the ability to take pool time away.
    As in the post below looks like there was a website issue that is in the process of being corrected

    Staci
     
  7. btehan

    btehan New Member

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    I am a resident of Braodlands, and I have no children on the swim team. I was at the board meeting the otherday on a different matter. I was amazed that the board members were giving the two gentlemen who volunteer for the swim team so much grief. It was obvivious that there were new problems confronting the swim team with an increase in membership. It seemed to me that the VOLUNTEERS were doing the best they could to rectify the issues and try to make everyone happy. Maybe changes to rules need to be made in the future. Lets all remember that these men are VOLUNTEERS, taking time away from their families to work with your children. I would have secound thoughts of volunteering my time if that is going to be the response that i am going to get. Hang in there volunteers....
     
  8. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    I'm also a resident of Broadlands with no kids on the swim team, and even I understand that the issue here isn't an increase of membership, but a desire to allow non-residents on the swim team before all residents have a chance to sign up.

    The CSL reps were trying to justify an unjustifiable position, so maybe that's why it seemed like they were given a hard time.
     
  9. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    The HOA Board is also made up of VOLUNTEERS, who also take MANY hours away from our families to work with everyone in our community. Some of us are even members of other committees, further taking away time from our family/personal time. While I admire people who volunteer, I will not support actions by volunteers who put non-residents ahead of our residents, at the residents' expense.
     
  10. serendipity

    serendipity New Member

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    Actually, the by-laws/rules of the swim team are crystal clear. Revising them is not what is necessary.....following them is.
     
  11. serendipity

    serendipity New Member

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    Btw, if you try to register for the CSL team today, as of this morning it says the team is "full" and will direct you to the waitlist.
     
  12. bike4fun

    bike4fun New Member

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    Maybe I'm being naive, but I see a simple solution to this problem. It will allow the HOA board some control over the swim teams.

    Don't sell ANY outside memberships to the pool this year.

    Acoourding to the (stated) by-laws, you can only be a non-resident member if you have purchase a pool membership for the year. No membership means no non-resident members. In addition, these outside memberships are under the control of the HOA board, NOT the swim teams. So the HOA board can (in essence) protect resident membership in the swim teams.

    Comments?
     
  13. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The HOA will not be giving up that revenue source.
     
  14. cobymom

    cobymom Sheila Ryan

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    Does anybody know if this issue was resolved? Did the CSL team move the non-residents to the wait list until they get their pool passes?

    Was the CSL president asked to resign due to his behavior towards the ODSL team members at the HOA meeting?

    Just curious.....
     
  15. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    What I know is....
    The HOA board's answer was to expand the CSL team by 10 (March meeting) allowing a few more residents to join - but it is my understanding it is now full again. (The HOA board met before all the posts here so nothing additional has been done)
    Outside members are still on the team - not sure if any residents tried to join the team and are now wait listed or not. Outside members are suppose to purchase their memberships by March 30th or risk being removed from the roster

    The CSL president can only be asked to resign by his own fellow board members according to the Bylaws. This is not something I see happening.

    Staci
     
  16. Daphne Gillie

    Daphne Gillie New Member

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    I rarely post anything on these forums, but I finally have to say something. I am a new member to the CSL Board, along with several others. I am Co- CSL Team Rep. this year (yes, a new idea to have two). Only 2 of the 6 members are from the past years....and thankfully so, because we need continuity from year to year and we need to learn from them! I was not hand picked and I didn't even know any of the other board members from past years. My kids are on the young end, so I am very new to swim team in general. I am not treated like an outsider and my ideas have been appreciated and accepted.

    There's a new system (ACTIVE) that is being used for registration and there have been some problems with the wait list issue getting resolved (after the HOA meeting). This is a system error, not anything a board member is doing. From my understanding, all Broadlands swimmers who have registered are on the team and there are still 7 openings. All non-residents are on the waitlist until April 10, when registration opens up. Where are you bloggers getting your information? I am getting mine directly from the system administrator.

    As a new board member, it is unsettling to me that some bloggers here are quick with the attacks, but don't have all the facts. Why are you rehashing past years issues? This is a new year with new leaders and fresh ideas. I have been nothing but impressed with Kurt as the president, along w/last years board members who have stepped up to train and assist the new board members as much as possible.

    Could we all just move on .... in the best interest of the children. Afterall, we are all volunteering and doing the best we can with what we have.
     
  17. diana5869

    diana5869 Member

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    As of yesterday my daughter, I resident, is still on the waitlist. That is where i get my information.
     
  18. Daphne Gillie

    Daphne Gillie New Member

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    Hi Diane - Please let me know who you contacted about this and when so I can follow up immediately. I will be happy to follow thru on this....send me your last name so I can. Thanks!
     
  19. Daphne Gillie

    Daphne Gillie New Member

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    Hi again - I just reconfirmed with the systems administrator that there are absolutely no Broadlands residents on the CSL waitlist. Please double check which swim team you signed up for. There is definitely a waitlist for ODSL's swimteam.

    As of today, two additional families have signed up for CSL and will fill a few of those 7 open spots.....but there are still a few spots left if your daughter wants to swim.
     
  20. Fritz

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    Daphne, first thank you for volunteering and helping the team out. Your efforts are greatly appreciated, especially for team rep responsibilities as that task is very significant and especially time consuming.

    But, to clarify so there isn't any uproar here or elsewhere and nothing is misrepresented. There is one Team Rep board member per the bylaws. Any new board positions need to be presented to the team membership for election. Your position in not a board position though you obviously have the pleasure of attending board meetings and interaction which is great.

    Again, thank you for volunteering and we are looking forward to another great summer swim season for all of the kids.
     

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