Broadlands Hospital

I am not blowing up on anyone with opinions but I find this particular debate not a good one to start on an HOA forum as it has a lot of passionate people on both sides of the issue and it gets down right personal. If we want to debate the pro choice and pro life issue, be my guest but do it in another forum so that those who want to read it have that "choice" vs. those of us who just want to put in our two cents about the hospital. I don't want to be told if I support the hospital I support murder because that becomes a personal attack against me. That's all I am saying (for the record - I am on the fence about the hospital),

I agree they are sleazy in their advertising, and that the clinic would bring unwanted protesting (from both sides) on certain issues. Can it be left at that?

 

I agree. HCA is sleazy.

Let's not talk about abortion.... makes me feel dizzy.

HCA does not belong here and I do not like seeing their ads all over the place like they are going to build this hospital tomorrow afternoon. No one wants it here. I wouldn't want McDonalds sending Ronald McDonald over here to make friends with my kids so they can get them to want happy meals. Reminds me of Walmart, with all of their happy face advertizing.

 

I agree. Please let's not discuss abortion. It is simply sickening.

However, I do feel that it is appropriate to discuss the services that the proposed HCA ho$pital will offer. We have done the same thing about heliopters, psyschiatric wards, blaring ambulances, etc. The FACT is that HCA as a corporation offers abortions, and I don't like the idea of having that kind of business in our community. Does anyone here?

Also, I would prefer not to have throngs of protesters in our community. Given that abortion is a socially divisive and emotionally charged topic, I could easily foresee the Broadlands becoming activist central. I have seen 24/7 mobs form around some abortion providers, and I would not like to come home to that! Would anyone? Why do the HOA and Terrabrook not care about that?!?!

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

 

I don't believe the direction this discussion has taken. This is my FINAL post to this thread, ever.

Now when does the ABC store open?!?!?

 

jtarnow: I can't beleive it either. Like you, I am truly horrified and outraged. I simply can't understand why anyone would want our community associated with this type of service. This is just another reason why we should all continue to oppose this hospital. Even though the state has denied HCA's application and every local authority has rejected the HCA plan REPEATEDLY, HCA continues to run deceptive ads and tries to stick its head into our community.

 

Not that I am for abortion or against it. First, it is no ones business. Second, people can choose for themselves. I am of the opinion that in a forum such as this, one's position on this matter is best kept to themselves. What I am somewhat offended by are the posts where individuals are spouting "our" and "we" like the Broadlands acts as one entity. This IS a community, as such, there will ALWAYS be differring opinions. THAT is what will truly make "our" community better and more prosperous. "Vive La Differance"

 

Before this gets any more out of control, could we all please take a step back? Everyone needs to separate two DISTINCT issues. They are (1) personal feelings about abortion and (2) concerns about having a business that may bring violent protesters into the Broadlands.

I do not care what anyone's feelings are about #1; however, I am EXTREMELY concerned about #2. I do not want to see the Broadlands turn into a place where we have to see people picketing and protesting.

 

<sarcasm>Judging from the numerous violent protests we've all heard about at Reston Hospital Center regarding this topic, I'm sure we can expect riot-gear outfitted police and guardsmen in our near future.</sarcasm>

Ya know, some of you guys are making it extremely difficult to support the anti-hospital position, even for someone leaning that way, with these COMPLETELY way OUT THERE reasons against it.

--Joy

 

Joy, that's their whole MO. I was actually on the fence about the hospital, but have been turned off by the "anti" folkds over the past several weeks.

 

As far as I know all hospitals provide any service needed for the public they serve. If an abortion, heart surgery or vasectomy or tubal are needed they are there to provide those services. Unless of course the hospital is owned/operated by a particular church affiliation. Please don't let the views of a few people against the hospital speak for all the people against. We all have our reasons and rational as to why we are against and the reasons vary, but one hot topic should not distract from the other and more directly impacting hot topic.

 

I've been on the fence about this hospital, too. However, because some of the people who oppose the hospital seem to be so strongly opposed, I just think that it would be best not to have it here. Why bring in a facility that could easily become a lightening rod for a nasty public policy debate right in our front yards?

Joy, I know that you turned on the HTML code for "sarcasm," but I urge you to consider the following. Given the well-documented, radical tendencies of some of those in the pro-life movement, violent protests and violent acts are quite likely. After the first mention of abortion services being offered in the Broadlands, I checked some news media websites and found plenty of evidence to support the violent activities of some of those in the pro-life movement. BBC News had a very informative, in-depth article. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/200848.stm. The article even talks about how two bombs were set off at hospitals!!!

So, please let's keep this debate focused on the issue of protecting the Broadlands from this undesirable element. I think that we all can see the logic in that, right?

 

"Please don't let the views of a few people against the hospital speak for all the people against."
Read this please.
As far as I can see, there is only ONE person that has submitted comments in this thread that
has strong views about this abortion thing.
This is certainly not the reason why I am against a hospital in this neighborhood. I have plenty of my own reasons.
I am quite aware that is is not going to be a little abortion clinic here at the top of the hill over looking Broadlands.
It is going to be a 7 story brick hospital, chugging along 24/7.
So, take a chill pill people, breathe...

 

When people here are hearing mental illness clinic they are thinking "oh, axe men that are going to kill us all in our sleep, who go nuts when they hear a certain word", mental illness also means like anorexia, phobia's. and other stuff. There are mental illnesses that dont mean they will kill you. Smok a mental ilness it is addictive.

 

o.k. I read all this forum, and think this hospital is make some people crazy. But I do not want to be near something that make people come bomb us. I think it make people decide to live some where else and make it harder to re-sale.

 

Chris, while the facts cannot be disputed, it is rare. For instance, I'm not certain, but I have not heard of any hospital or clinics getting bombed around this area, despite the fact that there are plenty that offer those services. Thus, using the "bomb" tactic to sway people away from the hospital is like using the earthquake argument to keep people from living in California. Or, closer to home, why live in DC since the next terrorist attack may be here. The risk is there, but how big of a risk is it?

 

Wick: Given the rhetoric that I have seen used on this website, I am scared that some of the people here could try something just like that. In fact, someone has even already promised to protest and bring in others to do the same.

Some may think I am a nervous nelly, but I think that it is fairly valid to be cautious about radicalism, especially when it is politically or religiously motivated. That is the most dangerous kind.

If we can avoid the problem by not having the hospital, then we are all much better off.

 

There is a logical fallacy to your argument. Earthquakes do exist in California, and the residents have no choice about the existence of those earthquakes. A terrorist attack did occur in DC, and we cannot change that fact.

HOWEVER, we do have a choice about the existence of this ho$pital. Using your analogy, why should we encourage "earthquakes" in the Broadlands?

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

 

Okay, I know my last post said it was my final one, but I have to clarify something in light of Stephanie's post. I was (and remain) FOR the hospital, and would support its offering any legal OR medically necessary procedures. 'Nuff said.

 

killer bee -- people have a choice whether to live in those areas. People are not forced to live in California or DC - they choose to. The decision in those cases is: where do I live? The decision in this case is: should the hospital be built? The point of my comment is that you shouldn't base decisions on remote possibilities. There are hundreds of hospitals and even more clinics in the US. How many have been bombed by wackos? Not that many.

 

One is too many.