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Backyard Gates

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Capricorn1964, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    I have noticed that once in awhile my backyard gate is left open. Normally, my gate is closed and latched-- alas not with a real lock. I have noticed that some of the other resident's homes' gates are also left open.

    Some folks and I are wondering if they have been opened by the HOA "inspectors" during the course of doing "inspections" and they forgot to close and latch them?

    If this is the case, could the "inspectors" kindly put the gate door back where they found it? If the door is already closed and latched, could they put it back where they found it before they opened it? This is because if someone's dog or kid is in the backyard and they left the gate door open and unlatched, the kid or dog could wander out of the backyard unintentionally.

    My neighbors and I would appreciate it if these "inspectors" could pay more attention to closing and latching the doors. If this is NOT the "inspectors" doing--my apologies-- then I guess there are people other than the "inspectors" "tresspassing" on our property, which then the police will have to be contacted because someone is going on our properties without our permission.

    Thanks for understanding....

    Thanks
     
  2. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    It could be the gas company reading your meter, or even Dominion Power checking your power meter. They have as much right to enter your property if they need to read a meter, etc...

    Don't be so quick to place the blame on HOA inspectors...
     
  3. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, the gas and electric meter are on the SIDE of the house....Nowadays, the electric folks don't check meters manually...they check electronically from the car, remember?

    There is NOTHIGN in the backyard that needs to be checked.
     
  4. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Nice to see your first answer is the "HOA Inspectors". Given that the "inspectors" probably only visit houses 1-2 times a year at most, and most "inspections" by the "inspectors" can be done without entering back yards, maybe there is another answer.....like the homeowners, their children, their friends, people cutting through, etc. is a more likely answer.
    Maybe you could simply call the HOA office and speak to the "inspectors" to see if they've even been to your house.
    I'm 99.9% certain what the answer is.
    Thanks for understanding.
     
  5. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't have a CLUE when that 1-2 times a year is at the most so I don't see my gate open that often so I wondered if that was the HOA inspector since I was told that sometimes they do go into the yard. Maybe the HOA could explain that in the newsletter or on here (like a "Sticky note" or something along the line). Many new residents DON'T know the routine you guys do. But I can tell you that where I used to live, the "inspectors" came around every townhouse and looked inside the fence by opening the backyard gates all the time and sometimes they failed to close the gate thus leaving it open.

    Did you not read the last part of my paragraph that-- if I pointed out the "inspectors" incorrectly, I apologized? So apologies was already extended it I was incorrect because I wouldn't know WHEN "inspectors" do their business and I have NO idea if they ACTUALLY go inside the backyard. Im just surprised that someone went to all that trouble to "open" my gate, which is that difficult to unlatch anyway...I guess I'll have to "lock" the gate with a lock to deter the kids from leaving it open. Maybe it'll deter them from going through property.

    Again, apologies extended if you guys feel slighted.
     
  6. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but I have to interject capricorn.

    Based on the amount of text, your original post is pretty much condemning the HOA inspectors as the likely culprit for leaving your fence gate open. You try to further your opinion by adding "Some folks and I are wondering..." when in all likelyhood it is your opinion ONLY.
    Gee, just a thought, but are there children in your neighborhood? When my back fence gate is open, I pretty much "blame" them first. Maybe it is "your" children if you have them.

    Oh, if I am wrong, let me "apologize" in advance.
     
  7. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    T8erman-

    You don't really know me or whether I talked to my neighbors....I, in fact, did talk to several of my neighbors who have experienced the same thing as I have. I did talk to some of them, for your information. So your ASSUMPTION that "when all in likelyhood (sic) it is your opinion ONLY." is dead wrong. (Likelihood is the right word, fyi)

    By the way, some folks may blame kids or blame the meterman or HOA Inspectors. For me, I first thought it may have been the meterman but my meters are on the SIDE of my house, not in the back. Secondly, I didn't think that the kids would go into my backyard because of the Trees in my backyard blocking the back of the backyard fence making it hard for them to jump over the fence.

    So I drew upon my PAST experience in my old neighborhood where the HOA inspectors VERY OFTEN left the gates opened after they had looked in people's backyards. So what am I supposed to THINK after moving into this neighborhood? Do pray tell!

    Lastly, I did APOLOGIZE in my original email, DOH! Didn't you CATCH that????

    P.S. your apology is accepted :rolleyes3:
     
  8. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Just to put this matter to a rest--

    Wouldn't it be nice if the neighborhood was informed in advance what dates or thereabouts when the HOA Inspectors normally do their rounds so we know when they'll be around?? So we don't have to incorrectly accuse them of doing this or that?

    Wouldn't that be too much to ask? My old neighborhood informed all of the residents when to be expecting them on a particular weekend so that way the backyard gates would be left unlocked for them to open.....

    Lastly for the UMPTEETH time, I did apologize in advance if I was wrong...so rest assured that I did say it. So if you don't accept it, that's your problem, not mine.

    I'm done and am not going to respond or read this thread/flames any further.
     
  9. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    You just don't get it, do you?

    My post was a parody of yours! You confused? :conf4: Let me splain (spelling intentional Grammar police) it to you Lucy.

    YOU, for all intent and purpose, blamed HOA inspectors for leaving your gate open when you had ABSOLUTELY no proof and THEN in an attempt to minimize your accusation, you apologize at the end of the post.

    So I made my "accusations" and then apologized at the end of MY post. And apparantly, it struck a nerve for you to respond, you were upset. How do you think the inspectors would feel if they read your post? Do you think they could get upset like you did? GET IT NOW?
     
  10. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Real NICE for your retort, T8erman- Calling me "Lucy" is real classy of you. I never did call you any name by any means whatsoever but I do have some choice words for you after reading that response. But I have more class than you to PUT them on this forum.

    Lastly, for the record, I never named any of those "inspectors". I have NO idea who they may be. Notice that I never named them so as to not cause any antoganization of them?? Apparently, you missed that.

    My whole posting was NOT to lambast anyone on the HOA "inspection" staff at ALL. It was just a "wondering" on my end. Guess you had to make it SO personal--perhaps you got offended? Guess apologies by anyone in their original postings are LOST upon you or its meaningless to YOU. I guess you don't really UNDERSTAND after all.
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Capricorn, you do realize all of this could have been resolved in less than 5 minutes if you had simply called the HOA office and ASKED them in the first place, instead of 'theorizing' that an inspector had opened your gate and posted here?

    Sigh....
     
  12. mdcrim

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    Honestly, if MY gate and several of my neighbors gates had been left open, the very first thing I would be concerned about is missing property... I think the very last thing on MY mind would be that it's the HOA... I people are going into yours and your neighbors backyards, they may be scoping out the place. Just a thought...
     
  13. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't I ask in one of my postings that it would be NICE to have a notice in the newsletter or on the forum when these Inspectors would be making their rounds? That way we wouldn't have to ask on the forum so to speak.

    Again for the umpteeth time (again, I said UMPTEETH but I guess no one wants to accept the apologies), I apologize if I offended any of these inspectors. Remember, the HOA offices were closed on Saturday so I decided to inquire on the forum instead because Im tired of having to go "latch" my gate each time I see someone (whoever that &$&$^^%# IS--My kid is too young to be able to open and close it, FYI). I've resolved the issue BY putting a LOCK on the gate so no one can open it without the key. END OF PROBLEM.
     
  14. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    So, let me get this straight... You've had this happen about 1-2 times, as stated in one post. Then you say you're tired of going to latch the gate door each time you see someone. You're tired of having to go latch your gate 1-2 times a year, and decided to post on the forums and place the blame on the inspectors???

    So which is it, 1-2 times a year or a more frequent occurrence? At least try to be consistent if you're going to try to place blame on someone...

    As for your suggestion about posting when inspections are done, that's simply not feasible for MANY reasons I don't want to get into here. Feel free to come to our next Board meeting for a full explanation...

    My comment remains - all of this could have been avoided with a simple 2 minute phone call on Monday...
     
  15. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Well, since I've resolved the problem by LOCKING the gate, there is NO need for me to come to the meeting or call the HOA offices. Besides, I don't want to waste my time calling the HOA offices if no one wanted to take the time to accept my apologies as I offered it.l Guess apologies means nothing to people these days.

    Its sad when people cannot accept apologies anymore.

    End of discussion on this issue and I'm throughly done with it knowing that people don't care if someone apologizes.

    They just simply don't want to accept it and drop it. They just keep on posting lambasting the original poster.

    Thank you and have a great afternoon!
     
  16. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Yes, it would be too much to ask. I talk frequently with many HOAs and have yet to find ONE that sends out advance notices of where or when covenant inspectors will be.

    Lastly, unlike homeowners, children, other people's children, fence jumpers, etc., the HOA Covenant folks are extremely conscientious about ensuring gates are closed behind them. After all, we see how quickly they are accused with zero facts in evidence.
    On behalf of the HOA staff, your apology is accepted.
     
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    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Vacliff, thank you for taking the time to explain and accepting my apology.
     
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    In general, covenant inspectors do not enter property unless doing a resale inspection which would require them to determine if changes have been made to the property which are not visible from the street. Resale inspections occur when the owner is selling the property. Inspections are also made approximately 90 days after a modification has been approved to determine if the project was completed in accordance with the approved application. For general inspections, it is not usually necessary to enter the yard. Inspectors wear bright orange safety vests that say Broadlands accross the back. They are long term employees and are very conscientious about safety, so I can say with a very high degree of confidence that an inspector did not leave your gate ajar. There are two covenant inspectors working the entire community, so there is no inspection schedule, most inspections are done on a random basis, during regular business hours. I would urge you to contact me if you have a question regarding any HOA employee.
    Thank you.
     
  19. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    mamatothree-

    Thanks so much kindly for taking some of your busy time to write a short explanation and I will keep in mind in the future that this is not from the inspectors at all.

    Further, I would like to say that I do recognize that the HOA, the board, and its staff do an outstanding job and they know that they do it with the utmost professionalism in Broadlands. I have never seen or experienced the opposite from the HOA staff.. I sincerely apologize if anyone on HOA staff ever felt slighted by my inaccurate assumption.

    Thanks once again and have a great day!
     
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    My gate stays locked at all times! If my scared dog got loose, he wouldn't be catchable, so I'm not taking the chance.

    Having a locked gate takes care of the problem of it being left open.
     

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