Broadlands Hospital

[SIZE=+2][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Yep just like they are never going to build on the two reserved tracts of land after their pretend final build out like Cliff believes. In an old broadlands newsletter the hospital spokesman said they are no current plans for those tracts but would not rule anything out and he said it would take a zoning change.

I wonder what two ten story buildings are going to look like right on top of broadlands blvd right across the street from those homes are going to feel like.
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Lee - of course they did - they are the only trama hospital in the burbs.

 

Um, Lee, did you actually read the story? The hospital treated the VICTIMS of the criminal assaults.

Are you advocating that hospitals not treat anyone involved in a crime, even if they are the victim? Are you saying that victims of crimes are responsible for their injuries and represent a threat to our community?

 

Don't know what happened to my article when I edited and added to it. No big deal Silence I did read the article and my point is criminals are treated at hospitals all the time whether it is the fairfax trauma center or out here for lesser injuries. Office parks don't treat criminals or stay open with 24 hours day seven days a week. Or could they expand beyond their final build out using it is in the public interest.

Lee j

 

Lee, kind of understand your concerns about Flex and/or office buildings, especially over in your neck of the woods - Regency - right?

That area now looks like crap since they have put in the buildings, but they havent put up a needed traffic light or added more lanes to red rum...which backs up nearly to waxpool on some evenings (at least when I worked at MCI it was H E L L trying to take a left out of the campus)

How do you like the 2-5 story buildings close to Regency?

...It is crazy and I mean crazy to think that HCA would or could move the proposed site near AOL/Verizon...HCA doesnt own that land nor has Verizon put the land up for sale.

Isnt your proposed site even closer to your home?

 

wrong sort of... they just house them,*sarcasm on*... but they do provide basic medical care for inmates and I think juvenile dentention is a 24/7 operation *sarcasm off*

did you know that there are some office parks that are used as juvi holding and treatment center?

If not take a nice drive near shaw road and let me introduce you to the Juvi center complete with Barb wire, fence and cameras...

 

Pea I have to admit that is very very good You are certainly on top of your game today

Lee j

 

Lee - LOL (recovering from the flu) and you are taking the lion share of my lumps today

...I dont think a lot of folks knew that such use of office parks is so near by and I thought I would share...I also believe that Fairfax Co also has 5+ tucked away and some in residental areas. (Gallows Road, Old Courthouse Rd)...

 

miss pea there is not going to be a traffic light until first they widen waxpool and widen ashburn village dr. That is years and years away.

Personally I am against all out of place development whether it is zoned that way or not. I have actually designed an gorgeous residential style office park for the land directly across the entrance from the Regency. Hopefully they will build it. It is a woman developer that owns that tract.

My point there should be a moratorium on all construction in eastern loudoun until the roads are approved and the zoning has been remastered by an master planner that is innovative and has a sense of common sense in what goes where and how the project layout and design fits in as a good neighbor to all it's neighbors. There are other new places in this country that have done that beautifully. THe very large Woddlands Texas comes to mind and there are a lot of other master planned cities all over the place. Reston within it's borders has done an very nice job of planning.

This hospital on that tract of land in the broadlands is a disaster waiting to happen just read one of your old broadlands newsletters and as I have been saying read what the hospital spokesman is really saying and said

Their are no guarantees as to what is going to happen to those two large reserved tracts of land that sit right on broadlands blvd. They will only look nice until they are torn down and build 10 story buildings there under the it is for the public good campaign all hospitals use that to expand. This hospital is only trying to get it's claws into that tract of land once they do watch out. Don't be naive to think they will not expand beyond this current final build out. They have reserved the land to do it.

Lee j

 

Lee - fair enough - but I avoid that intersection like the plague...you sit and wait 15+ minutes b/c of the 4 way stop.

How is HCA proposed build out any different from what has happened to Loudoun/Inova?

...I'm certain the folks in Lansdowne didnt expect such an expansive campus...but thank goodness they finally put a light at that intersection - it was one of the biggest fubar in the area.

 

First inova is much further away from the single family and the apartments are not near as close as those homes in the broadlands is to the single family that was there first. The loudoun campus is on a lager tract of land especially when you take in the fact all the medical buildings adjoining the loudoun campus. Landsdown the first major new pud in Loudoun since countryside is still one of the best designed puds in loudoun. Great transition between all the different uses but of course not perfect. The office and medical park is nicely separated from the single family residential and it has very nice urban housing for the people that want that life style.

Lee j

 

And criminals who are healthy rob Subway sandwich shops, stab victims at Mezza Grill, hold up banks, speed through our residential streets, drive drunk on our streets after drinking at TOS late at night. Let's shut down everything and live in fear.

 

Cliff and Lee, will this tract of land have on it the hospital PLUS related medical buildings and offices like Landsdowne? Or will this just be a hospital?

 

Are you sure about that?...HCA owns 58 acres and that seems a lot bigger than Loudouns campus

 

HCA has to build everything on that property where the Loudoun campus has adjoining medical buildings all over the place over there and more land to grow. HCA is locked in by clydes and the school building. INOVA has a huge empty tract of land right next to the hospital that they could buy and expand until their hearts content without a single family in sight.

Personally if I had the choice of the hospital across from me or those one story ugly flex I would take the flex any day. You can hide the flex quickly with landscaping which does not take 35 years or more to grow to hide an one story building like the flex with part of it is in a hole.

Then trying to hide 3 or 4 massive ten story buildings on a clear cut piece of land and the potential of two more right on top of broadlands blvd down the road. You all live in fantasy world if you don't think they will not try to expand on these reserved tracts someday, no matter what they say. If they would donate the two tracts to the hoa for common area then I would say you all are safe. BUt as long as the hca owns them them you can bet their will be something on them someday. Have Hca Donate it to the HOA and then would I only believe they are telling the truth. I don't think anyone has a clue how bad that tract of land is going to look over by you all when it bulldozed down and the massive buildings and parking is built 58 acres is not as big as you think when clear cut. And the constant construction noise for years and years during and during all the expansion. The hospital complex is far larger then those flex buildings with continued expansion for many years to come. The truck traffic and heavy equipment and blasting will go on longer then any of you all will believe. far worse then the housing construction and the noise. Those one story flex buildings will look like a garden spot compared to the hospital complex with it's continued expansion.

 

No thanks! IMO, our HOA dues are high enough already.

 

Lee - you are in the building industry...right? and you know that not ALL portions of land can be built on...if the land doesnt perk; no bubbles no structure.

The property you proposed over by AOL/Verizon most of which can not be built on nor does it come anywhere close to actual land hca currently owns.

... and as T8 said I dont want land donated to the HOA - if that means the HOA will have to maintain b/c that means our due will go up.

 

Well that or several potential ten story buildings right on broadlands blvd, no matter what they say about final build out at the moment. Hey T8 it is only raw land what can that take to maintain. ha ha Better yet they give it to the hoa and they take care of it forever without the possibility of ever being built on.

 

Miss Pea most of the land in eastern Loudoun has water and sewer. Especially the land around verizon and aol although I think it might better now closer to dulles south from Brambleton to arcola plenty of land over there and not far from the braodlands or Inova and would be better to serve the fastest growing part of suburban loudoun left. They just put in the state of art water treatment plant over by redskin park will be in operation shortly. And guess what they ran a line right through the property where the power lines are all through the land by aol and verizonAlso Everbody acts like dulles south is way over there but it is not that far away.



Lee j

 

Not sure Lee but I think a good chunk of that land is slated for the golf course and it may also be flood plain.