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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    The study lists ICD-9 codes used in the study, which may indicate they're all hospitalizable (?) conditions. Here's a broad overview of what the codes indicate:
    Psychoses, delirium, with or without hallucinations.
    Anxiety or other mood disorders, including Unipolar and Bipolar disorders. Dissociative disorders. Neurasthenias.
    Amnesic disorders, dementia.
    Schizophrenia, catatonia, hebephrenia, schizoaffective disorder.
    Paranoia, delusions. Personality disorders, ie, narcissitic, antisocial, passive-aggressive, borderline, etc.
    Autism, pervasive developmental disorder, childish disintegration.
    Gender dysphoria and other psychosexual disorders.
    Psychogenic pain, tics, pica, insomnia, hypersomnia, tourettes.
    Acute stress, stress reactions, PTSD.
    Impulse control disorders, pyromania, etc.
    ADD, ADHD, hyperkinetic disorders.

    Keep in mind not all of these might be hospitalizable, but they all fall within the codes used in this study. And clearly, some will be way more frequent than others.
     
  2. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Thanks, Techno. This is good perspective. I do know this from experience with my work--there are a fair number of teenagers right in Ashburn who suffer from depression, opposition defiant disorder, bipolar, etc. And I know personally of several who have been hospitalized for such conditions before. This helps paint a slightly different picture than someone inferred through their posts before.
     
  3. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    That reminds me...

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  4. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    The Mental Health portion of the hospital is to help with the over flow of the people who are currently living here in our neighborhood but currently are traveling all the way to Fall Church Dominion Hospital for treatment. Oh and by the way that hospital is also right on the edge of a community like BRMC would be. Here is a link to that hospital it too is run by HCA. http://www.dominionhospital.com/
    Now before anyone goes off spouting how awful it is to have these people treated here just remember they are here and I for one would rather them have the help they need as soon as they can rather then putting it off because it is so far away. Besides I took HCA up on their last offer to have a tour of the facility and surprise it is not people tied to beds and screaming their heads off or any of the other misconceptions about mental health out there.

    Staci
     
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  5. rich351854

    rich351854 New Member

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    How awful it is to have these people? In our backyard??

    That is a comment from somebody who has never personally been involved with somebody with a mental dissablity.

    This type of stereotyping and feermongering is what has people afraid of things........

    A mental hospital is a loving and caring place - staffed by people passionate about helping others..............
     
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  6. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    [lame attempt at humor]:pofl:Obviously, you are all missing the biggest problem. With a readily accessible in-patient mental care, there will be little if any posting on the BHOA Forums :screwy::screwy::screwy::pofl:[/lame attempt at humor]
     
  7. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    very lame and tone down the big bold font, please :)
     
  8. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    i thought it was quite funny... if we all took our meds this place would be a booooooorrrrrring forum.
    :)
     
  9. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    From the Wash Post (a few days ago) - I read a similar story on the front page of the Charlotsville, Va Daily progress this morning before we headed back home.
    Here are the links and an excerpt:

    http://www.dailyprogress.com/servle...sicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353741873&path=

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010403845.html



    "As part of his two-year spending plan, Kaine (D) has proposed boosting funding by $42 million for more caseworkers, psychiatrists and other staff to treat and monitor the mentally ill. NAMI would like $25 million on top of that. "
     
  10. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    I find that without the FUD a lot of the arguments against the hospital lose their teeth. But I'm still listening and reading, since I find this whole discussion interesting.

    Curious: was there this much controversy when the School Board Admin building went in, or Clyde's? And if so was it generated by (fundamentally) the same group of people making the same arguments?

    Anyway, Chucky kinda did it for me (in a good way though), put things in perspective. Sorry for helping to blast this thread out beyond 80 pages, I think I'll just go back to lurk mode for a while.
     
  11. Mr Rogers

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    Here is my take on the development along Broadlands Blvd:

    School Admin Bldg - :thumbsdown:
    Clydes - :happythumbsup:


    Hospital -:bigeek:

    By the way, there is an inpatient mental treatment center in Leesburg off of Route 15.
     
  12. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    Shoot, guess I can't keep quiet. Sorry.

    Recall BRMC's plan is for pediatric mental health services. The Leesburg facility treats only adults:

    "The Behavioral Medicine Unit of Loudoun Hospital Center located on the Cornwell Campus in Leesburg next to Loudoun Nursing and Rehabilitation Center has been serving adults age 18 and older since 1985." -- Quote from 2002 by the program's medical directors.
    In 2005, "Loudoun Healthcare Inc.'s behavioral medicine program changed its name to Loudoun Adult Medical Psychiatric Services (LAMPS).... The 20-year-old program provides specialized evaluation and treatment for adults experiencing symptoms of psychiatric, emotional and/or neurological disorders."
     
  13. lilpea

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    Has anyone ever driven to the Cornwall Campus?

    A few years ago LHI had a long wait, I drove to Cornwall.

    I was amazed that this hospital was even in there, plus you drive through a residential area of SFH and you dead end to the hospital driveway (albeit one-side backs up to a grave-yard).

    This the same Cornwall that INOVA offered/pressured administrators with a list of multi-million $ improvements (removing asbestos, updating electrical, HVAC plumbing etc) and the trade off was Cornwall could not openly support BRMC.

    You gotta love the PR spin machine of Inova...Rod Williams, newly created CEO of Cornwall - Loudoun County Medical Emergency Services, Inc (I cant get any info on the loudoun.gov b/c the links are broken)
     
  14. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    There was no discussion about the School Admin Building because it was built by-right and did not require any public input. Folks that argued against the hospital generally supported the School Admin building because it was more appropriate to "office park" than a hospital.

    There was a handful of residents opposed to Clyde's. One of them told me a few weeks ago that he's been surprised how little impact it has been.
     
  15. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Yes, there is. Visited it during the last hospital go-around. Talked to some folks who live around there as well as the sheriff's office.
    No issues.
     
  16. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Pea-
    Your characterization is correct, but the facts are a little off.
    The Cornwall Campus was closed many years ago when Loudoun wanted to build a new facility in Lansdowne. THey gave many, many reasons why that was a poor site for a hospital and had to be closed.
    Loudoun Hospital kept ownership of the Cornwall site. When BRMC was proposed, Loudoun Hospital reopened it to generate support from Leesburg and western Loudoun and to get them to oppose BRMC. Loudoun said if BRMC is approved, we won't be able to reopen Cornwall.
    Inova was not involved in any of this.
     
  17. lilpea

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    Cliff - thanks for clearin the air on the past - I was under the impression that this issue was once again back on the radar per recent articles...and how they are now pushing around the leeburg town council
    http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=600&sid=1308611

    ...my snarky comment about PR was aimed at this story - based on 2nd knowledge of what Inova told some folks in leesburg behind closed doors
     
  18. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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  19. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Lee, read the article... Most of it is all about Maryland except for a small blurb that the issue might also be something Virginia could deal with in 10-12 years. It's a known fact in the industry that many doctors are leaving Maryland because of the high costs related to malpractice insurance and the laws which put doctors at a disadvantage when it comes to the courts.

    Until lawmakers can put their foot down and tell lawyers/attorneys who enjoy frivolous lawsuits to burn in hell, doctors will migrate to where the legal environment is 'friendlier'.

    So, per your comment, it's better to not build more hospitals instead of dealing with the actual issues, which are the crooked lawyers/attorneys.

    And before you even say it, yes I'm back. I never left. Just decided to lay low in the background to save my sanity. After reading some of your accusations recently, I was debating even posting in this thread...
     
  20. lilpea

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    Lee - since 2000 the population has more than D O U B L E D!!!...as it stands Loudoun health-care is already spread too thin - the addition of another facility would actually off-set the population to bed ratio - which dramatically is lower than the national average.

    per the article you posted: If you look at the demographic and geographic info of said areas in MD going through the shortage - these areas are extremely rural & less populated DMAs.
    Now you want us to believe this is comparable to Loudoun? :doh:
    Your fearmongering, grose misrepresentation of R E A L facts and the "world according to Lee" is beyond reproach.

    ... please for the love of nancy...let it go (or at least take a 24hr break).

    We get it - you want HCA to build where you've deemed appropriate and in the style that meets your design eye. Until that happens you will continue to stir up fear, misrepresent facts and beat the dead horse that you know more than any PC, BoS,CEO etc...:scaredeyes:
     

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