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Broadlands Rec. Center - CALL SUPERVISORS!

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Skins fan, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    Received the newsletter below from Snow today. Good news in that he and
    Tulloch have proposed moving the Broadlands Rec Center referendum vote
    up to Nov. 2006. Previously it was scheduled to go to vote in 2009 which would
    have meant that it was not built for 5 - 6 years. According to Snow there is
    some opposition on the board to allowing us to vote on this. Seems like opposing
    a vote would mean that you don't trust voters to make the right decision?
    In any case, those of you in Broadlands who would like to see a rec center
    in place of the now dead YMCA project (which was supposed to be built at
    the corner of Truro Parish and Belmont Ridge) should email the BOS at
    bos@loudoun.gov and express your opinion so that they know there is support.

    This is what Snow sent out:

    ***Budget Update

    I wanted to let you know that yesterday, in the Finance/Government
    Services Committee, Supervisor Tulloch and I put forward a proposal for
    the Capital Improvement Program (CIP). This proposal included moving up
    both the Broadlands Recreational Center (75,000 s.f) and Phase II of the
    Dulles South Multi-Purpose Facility (67,100 s.f.) to go to referendum
    this November. Several Supervisors have already stated their opposition
    to these projects. I believe we need both of these facilities as soon
    as possible and I intend to fight to get them on the ballot in November.
    After the YMCA pulled their proposal, Ashburn Farm, Broadlands and
    Brambleton are left without any recreational facilities and we cannot
    wait until 2011 or 2012 to build this facility. I was successful two
    years ago in fighting to implement Phase I of the Dulles South
    Multi-Purpose Facility, however, the need for recreational and community
    space for residents already existing in Dulles South is great. If either
    of these projects are of interest to you, I urge you to contact the
    Board to express your opinion
     
  2. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    OK .. here's the question. Voters go to the polls to say yes, as they do with schools, etc.

    Voters then get assessments, scream bloody murder, and assessments get lower, but no money to pay for CIP projects ??

    I'm all for infrastructure upgrades and new building, but then someone has to pay for them. Again, I'm willing .. who else ??
     
  3. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    Neil,

    FYI, the voters already approved the phase 1 referendum for the South Riding facility. No reason to expect that they would oppose a similar facility Broadlands.

    skins fan
     
  4. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    Reread my note ... never said they would. I said they would vote for it, as they vote for school projects, then scream about the tax bill later on.
     
  5. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Neilz-
    One main difference is that a rec center will generate revenue that will cover its operating expenses and probably a little more.
     
  6. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    there is a difference between jacking assessments and raising taxes. As seen in the last go round.. 'oh but we lowered taxes!' as they jacked assessments way up. Out of pocket taxes went up.. but the tax rate went down. Thank god for those saviors!

    I could deal with taxes if they were mapped easily to deliverables.. my beef with this area is EVERYTHING is skyrocketing.. starting from the bottom of bread and water.

    /rant off
     
  7. smheese

    smheese New Member

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    thanks for posting this. We often talk about wanting a rec center but don't know what to do to provide support for the idea. I appreciate you putting the Email address out there to send support messages to.
     
  8. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    We hope ... I would take a look at the costs of the existing centers, and then look at any subsidies that are being used by the Parks Dept.

    I'm all in favor of the center ... but I fully expect to hear people complaining about cost.

    BTW .. with the latest zoning commission recommendation, expect more traffic issues and a push to use county tax monies for transportation.
     
  9. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    I am sure that somebody will complain. They usually do. So what?

    The point is that a rec center here in Broadlands would be beneficial for
    everyone in the community. I hope that everyone who supports the project
    takes the time to send emails of support to the BOS.

     
  10. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    Broadlands Rec. Center on the ballot for 2007

    Steve Snow reports in his weekly email that the Broadlands Rec. Center
    will go to referendum in 2007 instead of 2011. This is great news IMO.
    Thanks to everyone who wrote the BOS to express support.
    Below is what Snow wrote:

    "The Board also approved the Capital Improvements Program (CIP) by a
    vote of 6-3. I was successful in accelerating the Broadlands
    Recreation Center which should go to referendum in November 2007.
    As I stated previously, this project is very important since the YMCA withdrew
    their public-private partnership proposal."
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Who cares?!? Let them scream bloody murder. When the time comes, we'll deal with that. They can't scream bloody murder if we don't get the facility approved in the first place. One step at a time...

    If we used that same logic each time we wanted something, we would never move forward on anything...
     
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    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    I admit, I don't know much about how things are run by the Board of Supervisors, etc. In fact, I'm clueless. So could someone explain to me in laymen's terms why a vote to decide if a facility such as this is built would take over 14 months? Why couldn't the vote be held in November 2006 instead of 2007? Does it take that long logistically to put something on a ballot? Once again, I'm totally clueless about this stuff; I'm not critisizing, just trying to understand how the process works...
     
  13. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    As I understand it, the referendum will be a question to voters as to whether
    the county should issue bonds to raise funding for the project. These bonds
    have to later be paid back from revenues. My guess is that the board
    schedules partially based on when that commitment can/should be made
    given budget concerns and revenue projections. I am not 100% sure though.
    The vote probably could happen in 2006 from a technical standpoint.
    Once the bonds are issued, the project can begin so we will still be looking
    at 2009 or so before it is completed but this is better than 2012.

     
  14. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Also, even if it goes to a voter bond referendum and passes, it does not guarantee when it will be built. The Board of Supervisors can still wait several years to still build it. They look at the county's overall debt and debt limit to determine if they want to add the cost of individual projects to that debt limit.
     

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