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LCPS Furlough Days

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by TeamDonzi, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. TeamDonzi

    TeamDonzi ShowMeTheMoney!

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    As I understand it, these two days were to be unpaid days off. NOW, it looks like the teachers will get paid for these two days, but our kids are still short 2 teaching days???? What's up with that? Don't even try to add them on to the end of the year, we all know NOTHING gets learned in the last few weeks....HARUMPH!!
     
  2. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Dr. Hatrick and LCPS at its finest.
     
  3. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    All present company excluded, I'm sure, but teachers could use a couple of paid days off from some people's kids...
    :devil2:
     
  4. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    No, they chose that for a (noble) profession.
     
  5. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    Oh, really...

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    Teachers getting paid like other folks? OH! THE HUGE MANATEE!!!!

    Jeebus... dy'all realize all the expensive cars in the highschool parking lots belong to students? The reason kids do NOT get the after hours help they need is because the teachers have to do a 2+ hour commute back to home.

    Answer me this: why do bank presidents, wall street brokers and corporate CEOs get $$$$$$$ where as teachers, firefighters, police and other critical professions get $$?

    Seriously?
     
  6. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Well where would you like to start?

    1 - Private Sector vs Government
    2 - Performance Based Pay
    3 - Risk

    etc etc etc
     
  7. mjbenteler

    mjbenteler mom2three

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    the teachers haven't had a raise in 3 years, a couple days are deserved!
     
  8. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Forbes Magazine: America's 25 Best-Paying Jobs 2009
    Listed with average annual pay

    And don't forget to factor in region.

    1. Surgeons: $206,770
    2. Anesthesiologists: $197,570
    3. Orthodontists: $194,930
    4. Obstetrician and Gynecologists: $192,780
    5. Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons: $190,420
    6. Internists: $176,740
    7. Prosthodontists: $169,810
    8. Physicians: $165,000
    9. Family and General Practitioners: $161,490
    10. CEOs: $160,440
    11. Dentists: $154,270
    12. Psychiatrists: $154,050
    13. Pediatricians: $153,370
    14. Specialist Dentists: $142,070
    15. Podiatrists: $125,760
    16. Lawyers: $124,750
    17. Natural Sciences Managers: $123,140
    18. Engineering Managers: $120,580
    19. Pilots: $119,750
    20. Petroleum Engineers: $119,140
    21. Computer and Information Systems Managers: $118,710
    22. Marketing Managers: $118,160
    23. Financial Managers: $110,640
    24. Sales Managers: $110,390
    25. Air Traffic Controllers: $108,090
     
  9. T8ergirl

    T8ergirl New Member

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    I have to agree with TeamDonzi here if this is the case. Do we know if it is actually happening or is it a rumor? While I think its HORRID that teachers were forced to take two unpaid days off--that decision and all of its attendant ramifications clicked into place long ago. To now suddenly pay them ignores a large part of the issues that were caused by making them take those two days in the first place. 1-The kids get two less days of instruction, and 2-For working parents, the expense of child care for younger kids for these two days. No one is reimbursing us here in Tatertown for the expense we've had to incur because of the furlough days. Never mind the stress and hassle of finding a place to send T8ertot today and tomorrow.

    I'd really like to understand the facts here. If this is happening, I'll be complaining directly to Hatrick. If they found extra money suddenly, where did it come from? Can't it be used for a rainy day fund so that stupid things like this don't happen in the future? IMO, this was all a big show, anyway. At parents and teachers expense.
     
  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Yee hah! Made #25!
     
  11. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    All,

    From LCPS' website:

    "The Commonwealth of Virginia requires that schools provide a minimum 990 hours of instructional time each school year with each school day being at least 5.5 hours in length. School divisions are required to have a plan for making up a total of 15 days missed because of bad weather or other emergencies.
    For 2010-2011, Loudoun County Public Schools will operate on a 180-day instructional calendar. Because the length of the instructional day in LCPS exceeds the 5.5 hour minimum, the 15 days required are covered in the established school calendar.
    Loudoun County has had this policy governing the calendar since 1990. The fixed calendar means that days missed for inclement weather will not cause truncated vacations, Saturday classes, lengthened school days, or changes in graduation dates. Families are able to set their calendars a full year ahead around the fixed dates."

    The BLUF: do the math (and thank a teacher that you can), your children receive 15 additional days of instruction BEYOND the state mandate each year, however, for this year, they are only receiving 13 days additional instruction. And if you will remember, even with record snowfall last year, LoCo students STILL did not miss 15 days of school. No one is being cheated out of anything. My wife is a schoolteacher, and we are very thankful the $4.5 million in funding from the commonwealth became available and will be added back into the LCPS teachers' exhorbitant salaries.
     
  12. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Therein lies the big problem......it is my contention if the MONEY is focused where it COUNTS.....teachers IN the classrooms, there would be enough money for raises. It is the expenditures on bloated administration, construction policies and costs, sizes of buildings, etc. that leads Hatrick to CLAIM there is not enough money for teachers.

    However, most teachers know that they have to keep their mouths shut......if they are found out to be criticizing ANYTHING about how money is spent, the Sword of Damacles will come down on their head.
     
  13. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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  14. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    Agreed, but it isn't the teachers' fault so I don't begrudge them the two paid days off. I've spent some time in a local elementary school (as a visitor) and those teachers earn every penny they get.
     
  15. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    I agree....never said a thing against the teachers!
    Reread what I wrote. I also thing they could get a raise, even in the current budgetary constraints. it's how their leadership chooses to spend the money.
     
  16. diana5869

    diana5869 Member

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    Just an fyi.....the money came from The Federal Education Jobs Fund, that is to be "used to rehire teachers that had been laid off, and compensate educator's that had to take cuts in pay." It is money coming from the Feds, not the state, that could only be used for compensation and/or benefits. $4.5 million was used to compensate for the furlough days this year, and the other $5 million is being held over for next years salaries.

    Both my husband and I work for LCPS, so we have a dog in this fight, so I am not going to comment on anything other than getting the info out there. It was not money found in the LCPS budget, it came to us as a bit of a windfall, albeit a two edged sword. It is one time money, so it definitely will not help come budget time, so we shouldn't count on it.
     
  17. twohokies

    twohokies New Member

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    Absolutely agree! I'd rather have my taxes "wasted" in this way than so many other possibilities.
     
  18. T8ergirl

    T8ergirl New Member

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    I don't ever agree EVER with wasting any of my taxes. That being said, I don't think this is waste. Again, I'd like to be reimbursed for my $150 in childcare expenses based on this stupid showboat decision that now seems to not be necessary.
     
  19. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    Our PTA received the following message from a Washington Post reporter. Feel free to contact him if you wish to comment. It is directed at Dominion Trail ES but I imagine he contacted other schools as well and would be happy to hear from you.
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    [FONT=&quot]My name is Kevin Sieff, I'm a reporter at the Washington Post. I'm working on a story about the furlough days in Loudoun this week, and I was hoping to speak with a few parents of Dominion Trail students. Would you or anyone else from the school be available to chat for a few minutes tomorrow? Let me know. Thanks![/FONT][FONT=&quot]

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Best,[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Kevin Sieff

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot] SieffK@washpost.com
    [/FONT]
     
  20. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Exorbitant?? Don't you mean "measly" salaries because teachers don't get paid enough as is for what they do!
     

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