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Proposed Expansion of Belmont Ridge Road to 6 Lanes

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by Traci, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    Heh. Good point. But it's still too expensive, IMO.
     
  2. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    First, I don't know who you are or where you live, nor do I know who Oli is or where they live. We have plenty of "trolls" on the Forums who come here with an agenda to agitate regardless of other points/comments made. This is particularly true with a new user who pops up. For this thread, a few new users popped up. I am also aware of a disinformation campaign being spread through this area. I've seen their flyers. Don't know if any of these new users are part of it, but the timing is a coincidence. Maybe they are just responding to the disinformation flyers.

    Oli made an inaccurate post, which I corrected. They followed up with the "nice try" comment but could not address the FACTS of my post.
    After rereading the posts, I am quite comfortable with my remarks. I also noticed that Oli responded with a very good post that had lots of factual (but some assumed) information in it.

    But you will get your wish. After 4 years as President, I have informed the Board that I will not seek, or accept a nomination, for President next year.
    As far as the quality of my leadership, I am very pleased with this community and HOA. I have been on this Board for over 11 years. With some modesty aside, I believe some of that success is due to my involvement.

    But I will continue to post here as I see fit. Folks love to use "unprofessional" posts to me, but get upset if I respond in the same tone.

    Give me a call sometime if you'd like to discuss it further. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
     
  3. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Thanks Traci.
    Calpurnia-
    When a few residents came and addressed the Board with CTP concerns, I contacted Supervisor Miller and asked him to conduct a meeting with residents about the CTP. He agreed, and a date was set, advertised in the Newsletter, and will take place June 17.
    Hope that's "unprofessional" and "disrespectful" enough leadership for you! :happygrin:
    (in case you can't tell, just kidding!)
     
  4. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    These roads were also looked at by VDOT if the planned expansion does not occur. Leaving Claiborne at 4 lanes was acceptable, but reducing Belmont Ridge was not.
    In either event, with Claiborne, the right-of-way is already in place for the expansion to 6 lanes through Broadlands.
    Supervisor Miller will probably have more detailed information about this.
     
  5. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Having reread the post, I find actually nothing wrong with it at all. It's only mildly sharp, in my opinion.
    And please read my disclaimer. NONE of these posts are as official responses from an HOA Board member. They're just me.
     
  6. Traci

    Traci New Member

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    FYI, Stevens Millers Town Hall Meeting locale has changed... It is still scheduled for June 17th @ 6:30 pm, but has been moved to Eagle Ridge Middle School. He plans to discuss both the CTP & the Chesapeake Bay Preservation Act.
     
  7. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Here's the announcement from Supervisor Miller's Office:

    Supervisor Stevens Miller would like to hear the Dulles District residents’ opinions regarding the Chesapeake Bay Preservation Act (CBPA) and the Countywide Transportation Plan. Supervisor Miller will be hosting a community meeting to discuss concerns with Dulles District residents. Staff will make a presentation about the CBPA and answer questions from attendees. Supervisor Miller is inviting residents to attend the following community meeting:

    Thursday, June 17th at 6:30 pm, Eagle Ridge Middle School
     
  8. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    I just posted this on the front of the website as well. http://www.broadlandshoa.org
     
  9. Oli

    Oli New Member

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    Great news!

    Supervisor Miller and Waters have submitted a motion to to the Transportation Land Use Committee to reduce Belmont Ridge Road (from Croson Lane to Route 7) to 4 lanes, while maintaining ROW for future transportation uses.

    Turns out that the traffic model that was used in the draft CTP is flawed and the traffic counts were grossly inflated....

    In addition, many other roads are also being proposed to be scaled back by the BOS and there is greater focus on helping to improve the east-west bottlenecks and looking at ways to utilize multi-modal transportation!

    Let's hope these motions get passed by the BOS so that we end up with a CTP that makes a lot more sense!
     
  10. exbubba

    exbubba New Member

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    Does anyone know if there will be more thru roads to 28 or West Ox to get to 267 from south of waxpool?
     
  11. mikec

    mikec New Member

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  12. Oli

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    MikeC

    At the last minute, Lori Waters led an effort to change Belmont Ridge Road (BRR) back to 6 lanes, going against the recommendation of Supervisors Miller, Burk, McGimsey, and Burton and the previous Transportation Land Use Comittee (TLUC) decision of keeping it to 4 lanes.

    Hard to believe given that just a fews before, County staff told the TLUC that BRR could be reduced to 4 lanes north of the Greenway and still keep an "A" level of service. And if that weren't enough, the BOS were also informed that traffic counts on BRR were improperly added into the traffic model.....such as 33% more traffic on north-south bound roadways, and that the model incorrectly was estimating 11,000 cars per day coming onto BRR from Tillet Park (which we all know is impossible) and another 10,000 cars per day coming onto BRR from old Waxpool road (again, quite an imagination).

    No sure why Supervisor Kurtz changed her position (she had previously voted in favor of reducing BRR to 4 lanes).

    So it turns out that Water's motion carried 5-4 (Waters, Delgadio, York, Buckley, and Kurtz voting in favor of 6 lanes).
     
  13. mikec

    mikec New Member

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    So was this vote, the FINAL vote? If so, is there any indication when this road work will begin?
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    This is just the county transportation plan... think of it as the blueprint for future work.

    This isn't actual work being done now or any time soon. The county doesn't have any money for roads... but when developers want to do stuff the county will make them pay for road improvements. The CTP lays out for future planning what roads should be what...
     
  15. Oli

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    The CTP is suppose to identify the County's road needs and priorities over the next 20 years, but the problem is that the CTP isn't linked to available resources to make it happen. At some point, Loudoun homeowners will face bond inititatives to help pay for the roadways because Loudoun and VDOT have scarce resources to impliment the plan (the roadways in the CTP are estimated to cost ~$2B). Funding of roadways through developer proffers is part of the solution, but it also can make things worse because they often are the result of the developer receiving rezoning applications (approval to build higher density projects) in order to gt the raods built. This in turn creates more traffic and conjestion, and quickly begins to stray awwy from what the County origionally intented for planned developments as part of the overall Comphrehensive Plan.

    Sounds crazy doesn't it! If I ran my business this way, it would not survive.
     
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    Do you mind me asking what business you run? I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just wondering why you have so much concern invested in the CTP. I know plenty of business plans that do not get approved for funding. So all of this concern about the CTP just seems a bit strange to me.
     

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