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School Budget Discussion

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by shim, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. neo_mra_ct

    neo_mra_ct New Member

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    As far as Da tax man, social security, health insurance, PTO, and those types of benefits rarely exceed 20%. Social security is 13,560 split between the employee and the employeer, that puts the max amount both have to pay at 6780.00. Anyone that makes more than 90K sees this stop at some point during the year.

    Policies that cover overtime required by the DOL are pretty complicated. The one thing that is not is the salary amount that these requirements end at Individuals that make more than 40.00 an hour are exempt from these laws for overtime, certain government positions excluded. Anyone that exceeds that amount is classified as a highly paid person and the employeer is not required to pay overtime rates. Some employers do, but the amount that is paid is at that companies discretion. At that rate, you would have to make more than 86K annualy to not fall into that category. I am guessing that most teachers do not make that so that would be why they are allowed overtime.
     
  2. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    I know of MANY employees where I work that make less than 86K and are considered 'exempt' and thus, are NOT paid overtime. I don't think the 86K is truly a threshold...
     
  3. cmbm

    cmbm New Member

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    Exempt status is based on the type of work that you do. I used to do payroll years ago and remember all the weird taxes and exemption people. We had staff making 20K that did not get overtime and Union people that made over 50K for 3 months work that did get overtime.
     
  4. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Social Security is only one 'tax', and it's not split.. its actually matched. The rate is 6.2% the employer must pay. The Medicare tax is 1.42% paid by the employer. The Federal Unemployment tax (also paid by employer) is 6.2%. This is just the 'top line' stuff, and doesn't include any other taxes or state or local taxes. That's almost 14% just to start. So I'd had to question your '20%' number especially with government benefits.
     
  5. mwb2218

    mwb2218 New Member

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    No offense neo-Mra, but you do not have a single fact right in this post.
    I don't have time to explain everything but quickly the FICA wage base is 106,800 @6.2%, Medicare is unlimited @1.45% and just about everything you wrote about DOL laws is incorrect.
     
  6. neo_mra_ct

    neo_mra_ct New Member

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    I give guys...
     
  7. neo_mra_ct

    neo_mra_ct New Member

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    Ok, I didn't like the blast about everything being incorrect...

    I never referenced the FICA wage base, just the amount that is paid, which is correct.
    As far as being split vs. matched, I never said that either. I merely stated that both employee and employer pay that amount. This was based on a person that is a regular W2 employee and that makes more than the FICA base as mentioned above.
    I never even addressed Medicare, and as far as DOL laws about overtime, these are very subjective to the type of work you do which for what I do are correct.
     
  8. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I'm not sure what you expect...

    You ask how can this be this high..
    people make some comments on how...
    you counter saying "As far as Da tax man, social security, health insurance, PTO, and those types of benefits rarely exceed 20%"
    people dispute that claim

    That's pretty much how a discussion goes. If someone doesn't agree with you, they'll probably say so and probably say why.

    And you were the one who tried to limit the scope.. when the comment at first was about all taxes aka 'da tax man'.
     
  9. mwb2218

    mwb2218 New Member

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    By no means do I mean to blast you; just want to correct the facts.
    You said anybody who makes over 90K sees Social Security tax stop at some point in the year. Not true- the right number is 106,800 and only for SS.

    You also implied there is an across the board threshold for an overtime cap; not true. Its based on position type, federal, and in certain cases state laws such as PA.
     
  10. bird

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    It looks like the BOS is asking for cuts of $27million to the school budget. This is 5%. They aren't asking that the exact Tier 1 list of cuts be made, just that the budget be cut by 5%. So, will the School Board stick with the previously submitted list of proposed cuts at this level? Tier 1 cuts include the $100 athletic fees and $200 per year student parking, plus decreased funding for subs, part-time and overtime salaries, and reductions to staff development programs. One could argue that these cuts are not the best way to save money but are the least painful for school administrators - put the burden on someone else.
     
  11. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I particularly find the $200 parking thing atrocious. From $25 to $200. That's just shifting the burden, not cutting costs.
     
  12. tyger31

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    I see nothing wrong in that - it'll cut down on the number of cars on the road. You don't HAVE to drive to school, there ARE other options.
     
  13. fidothedog

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    You will probably have a few Ashburn Farmers yelling about that statement since they could all be moving to Briar Woods from Stone Bridge.

    One of the key items (which I agree with) that people in the Farm said last night at the boundary changes is that their kids can walk/bike to Stone Bridge but would have to drive down Belmont Ridge road to go to Briar Woods.
     
  14. bird

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    The point is that the school board/ superintendent would rather raise funds via these fees paid by parents than look at ways to reduce their own inefficiencies or get rid of programs which really aren't beneficial to students. They are shifting the burden to taxpayers one way or the other. Meanwhile, their turf is protected. All the programs and staffing which beef up the education system, and administrators' resumes, are saved.
     
  15. mamatothree

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    Unfortunately, what will happen is students will be parking on the streets in the abutting neighborhoods.
     
  16. cmbm

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    I don't see this as an issue. When I was in high school 20 years ago, we had to pay $75 to get a parking sticker. $25 was a bargain! We also got towed and/or ticketed if we parked in residential areas since the adjacent neighborhoods started parking restrictions.
     
  17. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Driving isn't just about not taking the bus. Kids also have work, after school activities/sports, etc that may make driving more then just a perk.

    I just think it's excessive and an excuse not to cut expenses which is what they should be doing first.
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Exactly what I was saying... they are simply finding areas to raise fees to absurd levels BEFORE looking to trim some fat.
     
  19. T8erman

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    And then No Parking from XXXX-XXX signs will sprout up along those streets.
     
  20. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    costing the county even more money. so this helps how?? :)
     

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