Time to Re-Think County Taxes!!!!!

Lost in all these great points is a simple one: if our federal, state and local governments didn't over-extend themselves trying to be the nanny state and wasting billions of dollars, we wouldn't be paying nearly as much in taxes to begin with.

I have this outdated notion that individuals and families can better decide how and where to spend their own money than the government.

 

And where will we be in regards to future taxes if the Democrats take the White House????

 

Well, they would move towards ending the occupation in the Middle East, which lowers the tax liability for all Americans.

 

In a basic sense, your argument is almost saying that the mere existence of taxes makes a country socialist. While, to be clear, you did not say that specifically, it is an uncercurrent in your post. If that is what you are saying, I agree on a certain plane. Any tax, by its very nature, is a "wealth transfer." However, that would make the U.S. the largest socialist country in the world since our tax base is the biggest.

I agree with the second statement, but not the first. The tax just needs to be painful enough to make people think. If each cigarette had a total cost of $5.00 (for a single cigarette!), then far fewer people would light up.

 

Doubt it, they will probably RAISE taxes to lower the national debt. At best, taxes will remain the same.

 

Then we lose that significant tax and politicians come up with something else to tax. Something that may actually impact everyone instead of just smokers.

 

You keep criticizing Europe broadly, but how is it that the U.S. is that much different? For example, the U.S. Government imposes a "gas guzzler" tax on vehicles to - and I quote you - "fluence behavior.... such as choice of cars" just as you are accusing them of doing.

I sense in your posts a level of seething vitriol for Europe. In fact, you've mentioned oil-rich Norway a few times (you have sniped about Norway in three different threads, based on my quick search). Now, I say this with tongue in cheek, it almost seems like a right-wing campaign against a sovereign oil-rich country with a form of government that they disapprove of. What's next? Invasion and occupation of Scandinavia?

 

There's a quote from Winston Churchill that talks to this, "Now we are simply haggling about the price." You admit that we have the concept in the U.S., but discard it because the monetary value is different. Wow, I guess that there are still people out there who believe that you can be a little pregnant!

Also, I am not sure why you have started to throw around the term "luxury tax." I did not mention any "luxury tax." I was talking about the "gas guzzler tax." Why are you trying to confuse things?

Why do you work there if you hate it so much? By working there, aren't you supporting a socialist country that you continually denigrate?

I have lived in Europe, and I have friends there. They don't whine and complain about their lives nearly as much as you are doing on their behalf. In fact, they are shocked that a country as advanced and wealthy as the U.S. would find it morally and ethically acceptable to force a child to go without cancer access to treatments that could save her life (remember what the administration recently did).

 

If you can't see how the concepts are the same and only the value amounts are different, then I think you are ignoring facts to serve your own viewpoint. Again, you can't be a little bit pregnant, CORRECT? I'm calling for some intellectual honesty like Churchill called for in the quote I mentioned.

On my keyboard, the letters "gas guzzler" and "luxury tax" are not anywhere near each other. Dude, I'd love to see your keyboard - is it something new from Bill Gates? You tried to change the subject, but it did not work.

My ideals, huh? I don't recall mentioning my ideals in this discussion. I sense another attempt to change the subject like you did with "luxury tax."

What way? You mean untaxed and free from government oversight and regulation? Dude, wake up. Almost every aspect of our lives is managed by government.

 

Your turn, flynnibus!

 

The old British expression "In for a penny, in for a pound" must mean nothing to you. You disparage Europeans for what being what you call "socialists." You base the labeling of them as "socialists" on the fact that some European countries have taxes that are "used to influence behavior.... such as choice of cars." However, when someone points out that we have exactly such a tax in this country, you dance like a cat on a hot tin roof.

Now, let me see if cafepress has a "I'm a little bit pregnant" bumpersticker for you.

 

What does Europe have to do with our county taxes? Gryphon, please stop hijacking other's threads!

 

The first mention of Europe was by flynnibus, not me. See post # 24 in this thread:

So, take it up with the offending party!