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Traffic Calming Measure - Proposed Speed Humps

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by The Broadlands Community, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. The Broadlands Community

    The Broadlands Community Well-Known Member

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    Traffic Calming Community Meeting
    7:00 pm Thursday November 10th
    Eagle Ridge Middle School Auditorium


    Following resident concerns regarding speeding on neighborhood roads, the Broadlands Board of Directors submitted a request to Loudoun County Department of Transportation and Capital Infrastructure (DTCI) to perform traffic calming studies on certain roads where speeding had been reported. To qualify for such the engineering study, a road must meet eligibility requirements as follows: it must be a VDOT owned and maintained road; it must be a neighborhood street where residents connect to roadway via driveways; and it must have a posted speed limit of 25MPH or less. The roads that qualified were Chickacoan Trail Drive, Demott Drive, Glebe View Drive, Ridgeway Drive, and Village Drive. The studies were performed in September 2021. DTCI placed traffic monitoring devices in selected areas and monitored traffic volumes and speed over a 48-hour period. A roadway qualifies for traffic calming measures if is meets the following measures: traffic volumes between 600 and 4,000 vehicles per day; 85th percentile observed speed must be 10MPH or more than the posted speed limit. Portions of Chickacoan Trail Drive, Demott Drive, Glebe View Drive, and Ridgeway Drive qualified, but Village Drive did not.

    Following their study, DTCI developed a conceptual plan that recommends the installation of speed humps in specific locations on each of the qualifying roadways. The affected homes are broken down into sections based on frequent travel routes and proximity to the proposed humps. Speed humps cannot be installed on inclines and cannot be installed near storm drains. The installation of speed humps will require more than 50% of the affected homes in each of the areas to vote in favor. DTCI will create a ballot that will be mailed to each of the affected homes and there is a 30-day window in which the surveys can be returned, currently scheduled for November 16 through December 16. If there is less than 50% support from the residents in the area, the speed humps cannot be installed. Please review the following documentation which includes maps and affected street addresses.
    Volunteers within the community will be going door to door to educate residents on the process and encourage them to respond to the survey when it is sent. Please join us on the 10th to learn about these proposed speed humps.
     
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  2. Dutchml

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    Who are the 12 morons that were doing in excess of 75 mph on Chickacoan? Is that even possible?

    Edited to add upon further reading: The chart also shows 11 morons doing >75 mph on Demott and 18 morons doing >75 mph on Glebe View. I think something is amiss...
     
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  3. Capricorn1964

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    Doesn’t surprise me that people speed that fast- Along Ridgeway Drive, more than HALF of the cars were speeding more than the speed limit! There was more than several cars going 75 mph even. Long before this study was even done, I knew people were speeding big time here and people don’t really bat an eye here as I think people expect it.

    What really galls me is where the plan to put the speed humps in— only two places? 1 near Mill Run Elementary School and another near Engleside Pl?? I can tell you people speed down the hill on Ridgeway Drive passing Stone Hollow Rd or speeding towards going up the hill- Additionally, there are quite a number of speeders going to and from Claiborne on Stone Hollow road.

    Really blows that none of them will be past Engleside Pl. They should put more of them closer to Stone Hollow Road and even on Stone Hollow Road. To not do that WON’T deter speeders at ALL

    I don’t think this will result in fewer speeders overall in my area but only in specific areas on Ridgeway and people along that area will benefit more than elsewhere on Ridgeway.

    What’s more, people don’t care about speeding as a whole as long it’s not in front of their homes where they have kids— those same people will speed elsewhere because other people’s kids are not their own. A friend of mine who is a retired cop pointed that out to me and it makes logical sense.
     
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  4. Excelsior

    Excelsior Southern Walk||IMPERIUM IN IMPERIO||

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    Thanks for the notice. I'll make it a point to attend. It boils down to this. More cars = more speeders.
     
  5. glockenspiel

    glockenspiel New Member

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    Let’s hope someone informs the snow plow operators of the new speed hump locations. If not, I will expect to hear a big bang or two in the wee hours of snowy days as the overworked operators find the new humps with their plow. What is the cost per hump to replace in them spring?
     
  6. Capricorn1964

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    You might want to call VDOT on that question as they are thr ones paying for it since it’s VDOT roads here- Frankly, if you guys don’t want humps, then how you plan to or suggest to STOP or DETER speeders because LCSO doesn’t have enough cops or bandwidth to sit and catch speeders all day. If nothing is doone about it, someone could get injured or even get killed by a speeding car going many times more than 25 MPH- the signs stating 200 bucks fine is a joke because no one ever has been hit with such a fine-

    We all have kids in neighborhood and want them to be safe - a kid could jump into the street to go after a ball or even ride bikes / skateboard in streets (I see this many times during warmer months)-

    In fact, I heard that a car overturned on Ridgeway Drive a few yrs ago as it was speeding-

    So should we let it go and let people speed at their leisure and avoid the consequences of doing so?

    I say bring on the humps because there is nothing else that will slow down these @&$€¥% speeders who are going WAY more than 25 MPH!

     
  7. glockenspiel

    glockenspiel New Member

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    If VDOT is buying, I'm all in. I'm sure you saw the fatal accident on Gloucester last night. The engine appears to have separated from the vehicle. That's a sure sign of excessive speed. Bring on the humps!
     
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    @Capricorn1964 - you are absolutely correct. If they don't put speed humps on Stone Hollow, then Stone Hollow will only get worse! Why was Stone Hollow excluded from the survey initially? We have been here for more than 16 years, and I am shocked that no one has been seriously hurt or killed by those speeding in our own neighborhood.
     
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    thanks for sharing all this data. great to see the roads to avoid when riding a bike or walking.
     
  10. The Broadlands Community

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    The study and any improvements will be funded by VDOT, not by the HOA. Speed humps cannot be installed on inclines. Speed surveys can only be completed on a road once every five years. If the new humps on Ridgeway get approved, if speeding becomes worse on Stone Hollow, a speed study can be requested. If one was already performed when the other studies were done and did not qualify then, another would not qualify for another five years.
     
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    The section of Ridgeway between Stone Hollow Road and Heritage Oak as well before Laurier Drive IS NOT on an incline at all. DOES NOT make any logical sense to disregard the area before the incline begins after stone hollow road!

    Guess we might as well not do thr study at all if it’s only going to affect a VERY SMALL area of Ridgeway drive and seems like it’s only targeting thr area in front of Mill Run Elementary school- what a joke this study is if it’s not going to consider other parts of Ridgeway Drive that’s not even on inclines!




     
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    Thanks for the link. The big bus looping the neighborhood should slow down a few speeders. I have seen more bus stop signs on roads in the area that are not on this route, example - Broadlands Blvd. I wonder when the routes be modified or new routes added in the future. Doors opening…
     
  14. The Broadlands Community

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    DTCI has mailed out a postcard with voting information to residents who would be affected by the proposed speed humps. Voting is done only by those residents and is open from November 16-December 16:
    The installation of speed humps requires greater than 50% of the affected homes in each of the areas to vote in favor. A vote not cast is considered a no vote. DTCI has mailed out postcards to over 1,000 residents in each of the four areas, asking them to log on and cast their vote. Each post card has a unique ID number associated with the unit. There is a 30-day window in which the votes can be cast, November 16 through December 16. No votes will be accepted outside of that window. If there is less than 51% support from the residents in each area, the speed humps cannot be installed in that area and another engineering study and traffic calming measures cannot be requested for another five years. If you are on the affected address list, which can be found in the above section, and you have misplaced or did not receive your postcard, you may request your ID number via email. Requests must be submitted before November 30th to dept-tci-rtm-ballot@loudoun.gov and must include full name and address, and may include phone. Only one vote per unit is permitted and votes can be cast by the resident of the unit, whether owner or renter.

    Please review all of the information provided to make an informed decision on the suggested traffic calming measures. Please check out https://www.loudoun.gov/rtmballot for more information and go to https://lfportal.loudoun.gov/Forms/Ballot-Form to cast your vote. There is a link on the ballot form to an interactive map, which can also be found directly at https://loudoungis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=598160259b014f42b23d6fe14e199aa8.
     
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  15. CapsFan2015

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    Please, Please, Please - EVERYONE who received a ballot, PLEASE VOTE!!

    If you dont vote - it counts as a NO!

    These mailor ballots are relatively small and are easy to miss - we have been on the lookout for them, and we still accidently threw it away!

    If you dont have your Ballot by next week, please reach out to the HOA or Loudoun.gov and they can assist.

    BUT PLEASE VOTE!!
     
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    Here are instructions if you cannot find your ballot:

    ... if you have misplaced or did not receive your postcard, you may request your ID number via email.

    Requests must be submitted before November 30th to dept-tci-rtmballot@loudoun.gov and must include full name and address, and may include phone.
     
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  17. Genco

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    So if you don't want speed humps you don't have to vote? Only those that want them should vote?
     
  18. The Broadlands Community

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    Has anyone received a ballot yet? I am pretty thorough with my mail and have not seen one in person or in my Informed Delivery queue. Thanks.
     
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