Traffic Lights?

I believe the traffic survey reports of Claiborne and Waxpool were included in last months Broadland's newsletter. The surveys themselves were done in over a 3 or 4 day period in August.

FWIW .. most of the people I see exceeding the speed limit on Claiborne, are your neighbors .. fellow residents of Broadlands.




Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

My townhouse backs to Claiborne. I see and hear speeders every day. Motorcyles are by far the worst.

Yes, it could happen on, well almost, any road in the neighborhood. This just happened to occur on Claiborne. I don't think it was mentioned on the forums at all at the time.

Like I said, I live backing to the school and Claiborne. The walking path to the school is well used every day. And yes, I also see the massive 'drop off' car lines also.

Yep, you are right. I should have said 'anyone'. The path is very heavily used, both by people walking dogs (majority), bikers, runners and kids.

Not trying to hype anything by the way, sorry if you got that impression from it.

John

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Thanks for explaining. I'm one person that would come to the meetings if they started later ... say around 5:30 or 6:00.

 

Anyone notice that the new gas station and strip mall is getting a light (it's almost done) before Claiborne? Where is our light at?

 

Yep, I saw that last night to. It's almost like they are forcing us to use the greenway. That new light is within 50 yards of the other one. It's going to make getting to 28 during rush hour unbearable. Oh well.

 

Homer, isn't it already unbearable?

Here is my traffic complaint of the day---when there is only one lane for turning right onto Waxpool (ie: from Loudoun County Pkway), why do SOME people feel they are not obligated to wait in line like the rest of us? It just boils my blood to see numerous people in the straight-thru lane "suddenly" decide they need to turn right, and thus cutting the whole line??

What makes them so special that they do not have to wait?????

Ok, thank you, I feel better now!

 

They do it because they are Oblivions and ImporTants.

(If you don't know what I'm talking about, check out the Grrr! guy and the Grrr! lexicon at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145273,00.html )

 

Oh does that not happen everywhere. It gets on my nerves as well when the contruction crews put out the signs that there will be a one lane road miles in advance but no one pays attention to them. People are in such a hurry around here. Funny part to me is the worst offenders I've seen are people driving minivans. I would think that with their children they would drive safer.

 

When there is a merge lane and there are signs that a lane ends a mile in advance...then you get to the merge point and there's that long line of people that haven't merged yet, I never EVER let anyone in. The morons had plenty of time to merge and they're the reason there is a backup (think the point when 66W goes from three lanes to two in Manassas). Every time I've went 66W around rush hour, there has been that pileup/slowdown at the 3->2 lane reduction. I'd guess the same people sit in that jam every day...you think these people would realize if they merged before the lane ends, there wouldn't be that bad of a backup at that point every. day. of. the. week. Idiots.

They're too often spun halfway around in the driver seat with an arm in the back seats trying to calm/fix some situation...they can't be bothered with consideration and attentiveness, can't you see?

 

Ohhh! That makes Homer Angry! I do my best to keep the space inbetween me an the car close in enough that they dont try. Unfortunately there is always anothe Oblivion who does no 'get it' and lets everyone in. If people would stop letting cutters in they would wait in line like the rest of us. They know what they are doing. One time I made someone miss the turn (years before the current construction mess). that was a good day.

 

heh, I get an inordinate ammount of satisfaction from not letting people in line when they come all the way to the front and try to horn in...even to the point of looking over and smiling.

 

I'm with you guys on the people cutting in line thing, but I completely disagree with "3-lane to 2-lane vigilantism."

I don't think the county/state would make a three lane highway if you're not supposed to use the third lane. If 3 lanes go down to 2, then you merge, like a "zipper," at the point of merger. I would argue that vigilantes who disrespect this "zipper rule" cause traffic to back up even more than it otherwise would.

 

Howso? If everyone correctly merged before the merge-point then there'd be no need to slow down to allow someone to merge at that point. If I have to slow down to let someone in who paid no attention to the many signs then I'm slowing down the people behind me who have to brake. Alas, this is a perfect world situation and we know we'll never be void of all morons with licenses (and some without).

 

So, when is the proper time to merge? What is your hypothethical "before the merge-point?" Is it 100 yards? 200 yards? 1/4 mile? 1 mile? 10 miles? Like I said, maybe there shouldn't be a third lane at all, then.

In a rush-hour scenario, if 3 lanes of cars merge into 2 lanes, those 2 lanes will carry 50% more cars than they did before the 3rd land started merging, and everyone will move 50% slower anyway. It just doesn't matter when the third lane merges, during rush hour everything is going to back up. So why not just wait until the merge point to merge, instead of having everyone try to get in willy-nilly? Cars merging in an alternating, zipper fashion will get through the merge more efficiently.

 

Do you commute on waxpool in the AM? The right lane is bumper to bumper with traffic waiting to get onto 28 while people zip by and cut from the left. They had ample time to get to the right lane but they didn't because they are better than everyone else.

 

What is "ample time," though? How far back should they get over? Before the light at Pacific? Before the light at LCP? What is the point in having 2 lanes, then? At what point would you and brim get "an inordinate amount of satisfaction" in preventing someone from moving over?

I'm not really talking about a situation like the Waxpool/28 one, though. I'm talking about, for example, the Dulles Toll Road Westbound at Exit 9, where the third lane actually ends and merges in with the other two. My point is that if everyone merged like a zipper at the end, where the third lane disappears, everyone would move much more efficiently.

 

That's different. And for waxpool I say it's at the LCP. Everyone who use it in the AM knows it gets backed up. People are abusing the merge to get ahead. Trying to merge right at the point that waxpool starts the ramp to 28 is a pre-meditated action and not an ooops.

It's different up in Boston. I know. They can actually merge up there. I was amazed when I saw it in action in Bean town and in Queens. It just doesn't work down for some reason.

 

I agree, and I would probably be a "Right Lane Vigilantee" if someone were trying to do that in front of me, too. But, your concept of where people should merge is certainly different from someone elses. Without an actual rule, it's anarchy, I tell you -- ANARCHY!

 

Lol! I only pick LCP b/c that's where the line starts in the AM. I worked a Paramount's Kings Dominion for 9 years. I cannot abide a linebreaker. It really ticks me off.